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re: Elephant in the room... Mizou
Posted on 10/22/21 at 1:23 pm to OldRebYeller
Posted on 10/22/21 at 1:23 pm to OldRebYeller
Missouri has the best BBQ of any SEC state. Therefore Missouri is actually the most Southern state in the conference culturally
Posted on 10/22/21 at 1:40 pm to mouse_cop
Meth and BBQ seems like it was a consideration in 2011.
I still can't believe its been 10 years - wow.
November 6, 2011
I still can't believe its been 10 years - wow.
November 6, 2011
Posted on 10/22/21 at 1:54 pm to mizslu314
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You're right, we don't fit in. Education is too high, obesity is too low... But we do score high in meth, which helps us adjust better. As for the cowboy angle, about a third of this state thinks its cowboys. 1/3 cowboys 1/3 rednecks 1/3 normal people
I’m a fairly new resident of the state of Missouri and while I love it here you are very wrong. Obesity is by no means low, and would be worse but you have that meth helping you out.
Posted on 10/22/21 at 2:05 pm to LB84
An interesting thing about Missouri...
Several southern University nicknames have ties to the Civil War Between the States.
Mizzou is no exception. Yet while Missouri's history during the war is most notable for Quantrill, Bloody Bill Anderson, the James Brothers who were all confederates...
The Missouri "Tigers" were named after a Union militia that organized around Columbia to protect the city from those guys after they burned down Lawrence, KS.
Several southern University nicknames have ties to the Civil War Between the States.
Mizzou is no exception. Yet while Missouri's history during the war is most notable for Quantrill, Bloody Bill Anderson, the James Brothers who were all confederates...
The Missouri "Tigers" were named after a Union militia that organized around Columbia to protect the city from those guys after they burned down Lawrence, KS.
Posted on 10/22/21 at 2:09 pm to Gunga Din
Quantrill did nothing wrong
Posted on 10/22/21 at 2:13 pm to Gunga Din
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Yet while Missouri's history during the war is most notable for Quantrill, Bloody Bill Anderson, the James Brothers who were all confederates...
The premise for the greatest film in Western Cinematography - The Outlaw Josey Wales.
Posted on 10/22/21 at 2:15 pm to Gunga Din
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Mizzou is no exception. Yet while Missouri's history during the war is most notable for Quantrill, Bloody Bill Anderson, the James Brothers who were all confederates...
The Missouri "Tigers" were named after a Union militia that organized around Columbia to protect the city from those guys after they burned down Lawrence, KS.
Missouri having a bit of an identity crisis is not a recent phenomenon. The western side of the state never really recovered after Order No. 11 when the Union came in and literally burnt everything along the border to the ground to stop the violence between the two sides - often neighbors going at each other.
Posted on 10/22/21 at 2:17 pm to BreakawayZou83
Oh boo ducking hoo How did Texas ruin the Big 8? Was never a member of that conference
Posted on 10/22/21 at 2:47 pm to SOBMarcus
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Oh boo ducking hoo How did Texas ruin the Big 8? Was never a member of that conference
Wait, do you actually believe that Texas is not the primary reason the Big 12 collapsed?
The Big Eight existed for nearly 100 years without issue before the Longhorns came along in the mid-90s and destroyed it.
Right from the start, Texas worsened the unequal revenue sharing. In 2006, the longtime Big Eight headquarters were relocated from Kansas City, Missouri to (no surprise) Irving, Texas. In 2010, Texas and its cronies tried to jump to the PAC-10, destabilizing the conference. In late 2010, the Longhorn Network was announced. While other conferences were busy creating conference networks, Texas instead gobbled the opportunity for themselves at the cost of a Big 12 network.
Just before that occurred, four schools: Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, and Nebraska, voted to block any change to revenue sharing in the Big 12, ensuring unequal revenue distribution in the conference, with plans to worsen it.
This did hilariously backfire on Nebraska when Texas then created the Longhorn Network. They fled to the Big Ten because the ol Huskers could not compete with Texas' greed. Colorado, fed up with Texas, fled to the PAC-10. Although not before Texas tried to strong arm the PAC-10 into taking Texas and Baylor instead of Colorado. Texas pushed so hard, that the PAC decided to only invite Colorado instead of dealing with Texas schools and their double-dealing, greedy ways. At that point, Texas had already destroyed the old Big Eight. You took out two of the four teams Mizzou was most interested in aligning with, leaving only Kansas and Oklahoma.
Interestingly, at the time of the revenue sharing vote, Mizzou was fourth out of the 12 schools in terms of revenue. So it was the only school in the top five to vote to equalize revenue sharing.
Posted on 10/22/21 at 3:32 pm to OldRebYeller
Several schools don't "fit" really.
You could argue A&M because Texas isn't truly the South but culturally A&M fits pretty well, we are the most Southern cultural part of Texas generally. We bring a lot to the table though with academics, money, and TV sets. Texas feels like much more of an SEC state now and it didn't 10 years ago.
Mizzou is awkward for the many reasons listed but they bring a lot to the table as mentioned. The demise of the Big 8 basically took away the home for the lost souls in the middle of the country that didn't really fit anywhere else with Colorado being the only one that wasn't in a really boring part of the country to live with little personality.
Kentucky honestly is just as awkward as Missouri, they have just been around a long time. Lexington is pretty damn far North and is closer to Cincinnati and Louisville than it is any major Southern State (Cincy and Louisville sure as hell aren't Southern). Kentucky has a lot of SEC history though, brings the basketball component, and has some Southern cultural feel.
Vandy feels like it should have left about the same time as Tulane, they made nice bookends but they are basically like Rice was to the SWC.
Texas and OU aren't SEC culturally at all. Austin and CS may be 90 miles apart but culturally they are night and day. OU loves football but it's definitely not the feel of an SEC school or state.
The most SEC like school that isn't in the SEC to me is easily Clemson. Everything about Clemson screams SEC.
Doesn't really matter though, all the conferences will be blowing up in the next few years anyway as we move to Super Conferences. Writing is on the wall.
You could argue A&M because Texas isn't truly the South but culturally A&M fits pretty well, we are the most Southern cultural part of Texas generally. We bring a lot to the table though with academics, money, and TV sets. Texas feels like much more of an SEC state now and it didn't 10 years ago.
Mizzou is awkward for the many reasons listed but they bring a lot to the table as mentioned. The demise of the Big 8 basically took away the home for the lost souls in the middle of the country that didn't really fit anywhere else with Colorado being the only one that wasn't in a really boring part of the country to live with little personality.
Kentucky honestly is just as awkward as Missouri, they have just been around a long time. Lexington is pretty damn far North and is closer to Cincinnati and Louisville than it is any major Southern State (Cincy and Louisville sure as hell aren't Southern). Kentucky has a lot of SEC history though, brings the basketball component, and has some Southern cultural feel.
Vandy feels like it should have left about the same time as Tulane, they made nice bookends but they are basically like Rice was to the SWC.
Texas and OU aren't SEC culturally at all. Austin and CS may be 90 miles apart but culturally they are night and day. OU loves football but it's definitely not the feel of an SEC school or state.
The most SEC like school that isn't in the SEC to me is easily Clemson. Everything about Clemson screams SEC.
Doesn't really matter though, all the conferences will be blowing up in the next few years anyway as we move to Super Conferences. Writing is on the wall.
Posted on 10/22/21 at 3:38 pm to AgSGT
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I’m a fairly new resident of the state of Missouri and while I love it here you are very wrong
Only Florida is lower than us.
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Posted on 10/22/21 at 3:54 pm to OldRebYeller
Adding Mizzou to the SEC makes little sense in terms of geography or culture, but the SEC had to invite another school along with A&M to make the number of teams even, so they settled for Mizzou. If it weren't for us, Mizzou would never have been invited to the SEC.
You're very welcome, Tigers.
You're very welcome, Tigers.
Posted on 10/22/21 at 3:56 pm to aggressor
Spot on with Clemson. Imagine Clemson and FSU joining the SEC
Posted on 10/22/21 at 4:09 pm to OldRebYeller
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Imagine Clemson and FSU joining the SEC
Ugh that would’ve been so so so much better than adding OU and Texas
Posted on 10/22/21 at 4:12 pm to OldRebYeller
They're AAU so I don't know why the B10 didn't try and take them back in 2010/2011.
Posted on 10/22/21 at 4:13 pm to ryker
Ever been to St Louis? It’s the one place New Orleans can point to and say look and that shithole over there.
Posted on 10/22/21 at 4:19 pm to MetroAtlantaGatorFan
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They're AAU so I don't know why the B10 didn't try and take them back in 2010/2011.
They did. Missouri declined the “junior membership” offer because the whole point of leaving the Big 12 was to receive equitable treatment from the new conference. Nebraska decided the Jr. membership was worth it and accepted.
Posted on 10/22/21 at 4:24 pm to KCM0Tiger
And then Nebraska got kicked out of the AAU for some reason after being invited.
Posted on 10/22/21 at 4:31 pm to Tantal
quote:Your campus looks like Soviet era Yugoslavia.
Go to Austin and see for yourself.
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