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re: EDIT: 35% of Trent Richardson's TD runs are 2 yards or less - 50% under 5 yards
Posted on 11/20/11 at 11:31 am to AustinTigah
Posted on 11/20/11 at 11:31 am to AustinTigah
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Don't tell me they NEEDED Richardson on those punch ins. Lacy or a third string back could have done it.
Guess what. Lacy and the third team back HAVE done it. If we wanted to pad stats, Trent would have gone in for every one of those.
Posted on 11/20/11 at 11:33 am to Bwbama
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He has numerous TD runs longer than ANY run by ANY LSU runner.
Yet we still made his arse quit not even a month ago. He didn't even sniff the endzone. Your point is moot.
Posted on 11/20/11 at 11:34 am to secftw
LSU has never had a "GO-TO" RB, but rather a RB by committee. Each one of LSU's top three backs would challenge just about any RB in the country for carries. I am sure if CLM wanted to have just one back do all the work he could. On LSU's second TD last night Spencer Ware got LSU down to the goaline only to be relieved to have Hilliard come in to punch it in. CLM also gave his senior FB some bones by letting Stampley push one in from the goaline. Had LSU used Ware for all of the goaline TD's I am sure he would be close to TR's 20 TD's.
It seems this could hurt the RB's draft stock, but it also gives them less of a pounding during their college years and lets them have more of a shelf life at the level where they can earn money.
It seems this could hurt the RB's draft stock, but it also gives them less of a pounding during their college years and lets them have more of a shelf life at the level where they can earn money.
Posted on 11/20/11 at 11:35 am to ibldprplgld
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He didn't even sniff the 18 yard line
fixed it
Posted on 11/20/11 at 11:38 am to AustinTigah
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Wow. 7 of 20 (35%) is exactly what I'm saying. And that doesn't count other short runs. EDITED TO ADD: 10 of 20 (50%!!!) less than 5 yards. Wow again. Most FBS backs could punch in 7 TDs from 2 yards behind a top class O-line. Back out 7 "easy" TDs and 13 isn't Heisman worthy. The point being- when you have a back you're trying to get to New York, you give him every 2 yard punch possible to pad the stats. Let's face it - Bama has dominated most opponents... Don't tell me they NEEDED Richardson on those punch ins. Lacy or a third string back could have done it.
Oh my god!!! Why do you care if Trent is a good back or not?
The reason he got those short TD runs and not Lacy or Fowler is because he did most of the work to get to the one or two yard line. Why is this so hard for you to understand and why is it your mission in life to discredit Trent? You read like a whiny little bitch.
Oh and if Saban had only been concerned with getting Trent to New York he would have played him deep into some of the blowout games. Trent could easily have two to three hundred more rushing yards and three or four more TDs if he had been kept in some of those games.
Posted on 11/20/11 at 11:39 am to Maximus
lol been dangling from my nuts for the better part of the season.
Posted on 11/20/11 at 11:41 am to Aman
Lacy has 7 TDs and Fowler has 3...that damn Saban should have given Trent those scores.
Also, why are we passing to anyone other than Trent? If he catches some of those TDs that went to the WRs and TEs, he would be dominating the Heisman race.
Damn, the LSU fans are going full retard again.
Also, why are we passing to anyone other than Trent? If he catches some of those TDs that went to the WRs and TEs, he would be dominating the Heisman race.
Damn, the LSU fans are going full retard again.
Posted on 11/20/11 at 11:42 am to secftw
like Michael Williams from Eric Reid?
Posted on 11/20/11 at 11:43 am to Maximus
Like your entire defense from Trent Richardson.
Is it comfortable having me under your skin this bad?
Is it comfortable having me under your skin this bad?
Posted on 11/20/11 at 11:44 am to ehole
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trent avegrage 15.9 yards per td carry... 1,9,1,4,3,13,58,71,5,36,1,7,8,76,12,1,2,1,1 32.5 yards per td catch 61, 4
Thank you, by the way.
Average is typically misleading though.
Median TD run length is 6 yards.
The stats back up the original point Gumps. Don't let this thread turn into the typical subjective argument. We're using stats to refute the impressiveness of the "20 TD school record" and "more than Ingram so he deserves the Heisman stuff".
Prove that I'm wrong when 50% of his TDs are less than 5 yards against inferior opponents (save LSU in which he didn't score at all).
Posted on 11/20/11 at 11:44 am to RamblingTiger
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LSU has never had a "GO-TO" RB, but rather a RB by committee. Each one of LSU's top three backs would challenge just about any RB in the country for carries. I am sure if CLM wanted to have just one back do all the work he could. On LSU's second TD last night Spencer Ware got LSU down to the goaline only to be relieved to have Hilliard come in to punch it in. CLM also gave his senior FB some bones by letting Stampley push one in from the goaline. Had LSU used Ware for all of the goaline TD's I am sure he would be close to TR's 20 TD's.
So fricking what. It's not wrong to have a main go to back and it's not wrong to have a RB by committee. They both work and neither is a better option. Also I think you would have seen a little more RB by committee the last 4 or 5 games had Lacy not hurt his toe. That has severly limited his carries and aided Trent in getting more touches. Do you have a problem with that? I'm sure the Trent and Bama bashing will continue. Based on this board one would think Bama is a shitty team who could never in a million years hang with LSU. I have no problem admitting that LSU is playing the best ball right now, but I also understand that Bama is nipping at their heals and could easily beat them on any given day.
Posted on 11/20/11 at 11:47 am to AustinTigah
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Thank you, by the way.
Average is typically misleading though.
Median TD run length is 6 yards.
The stats back up the original point Gumps. Don't let this thread turn into the typical subjective argument. We're using stats to refute the impressiveness of the "20 TD school record" and "more than Ingram so he deserves the Heisman stuff".
Prove that I'm wrong when 50% of his TDs are less than 5 yards against inferior opponents (save LSU in which he didn't score at all).
So his 20 TDs aren't impressive because they aren't all 50 yard runs?
This past weekend has really pissed some of your corndogs off hasn't it?
Posted on 11/20/11 at 12:01 pm to secftw
What the hell is going on in here? Median TD runs? Trent runs on first down from the 25 and is downed at the 3 what a run. Trent gets the ball and takes it in for the TD.......OH NOZ! HE SUCKS! Good God OP are you joking with this thread?
Posted on 11/20/11 at 12:02 pm to secftw
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This past weekend has really pissed some of your corndogs off hasn't it?
Nope. All good here. Incredible weekend!
Just proving that Weeden, Wilson, Keenum, and others have put up more impressive REAL stats than easy punch ins.
Can't you guys refute a statistical statement without BS arguments? I grew up in Alabama and know most of you aren't good with numbers and such. But try.
3, 2, 1 ... another corndog joke, comment about a rematch, or subjective argument coming NOW!
Posted on 11/20/11 at 12:07 pm to AustinTigah
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Just proving that Weeden, Wilson, Keenum, and others have put up more impressive REAL stats than easy punch ins.
lold at "REAL" stats
Like I said, people were all over Toby's TD count for why he should've been ahead of Ingram in 09...yet the staggering majority of his TDs were from 1-2 yards out.
Keenum and Weeden? Who the hell have they put up these "REAL" stats against again? And what have Wilson's stats been like against a strong defense?
Posted on 11/20/11 at 12:07 pm to AustinTigah
Figure out the other RBs median TD runs and the QBs median TD passes. What is a good median TD run anyways? I know all those median TD runs are talked about on tv all the time I just can't remember.
This post was edited on 11/20/11 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 11/20/11 at 12:10 pm to Aman
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Oh my god!!! Why do you care if Trent is a good back or not?
Because he is a dirty piece of swamp trash from some shithole in Louisiana who has a fat ugly wife with 3 kids who aren't even his. Talking shite about a kid who has already achieved more in life than he can ever hope to do is the only thing stopping him from ending it all. Show some compassion a-hole.
To the OP, I agree. Trent is very overrated. NFL scouts agree. If not for those short TD runs, no one would think he is any good.
Posted on 11/20/11 at 12:11 pm to ReauxlTide222
This is the strangest SECr thread in like a day or two.
Posted on 11/20/11 at 12:13 pm to Crede15
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This is the strangest SECr thread in like the last 12 minutes.
FIFY...
Posted on 11/20/11 at 12:13 pm to Crede15
Pretty sure IIRC, there have been a few times when TR has carried the ball down the field, and then Lacey or Fowler punches it in as well.
So if he has a 70 yard run to the 1, and then runs 1yd for a TD, he's not good?
So if he has a 70 yard run to the 1, and then runs 1yd for a TD, he's not good?
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