re: Does the SEC want the Sooners?

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A&M got invited AFTER the SEC couldn't get Oklahoma

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I sure would double check your facts if I were you.

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Clemson-UNC-NCState-UVA-Wake-Duke have been together since 1953. G Tech joined in 1978. FSU in 1991. I'm confused why some people think it is ready to break apart.

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It's not ready to break apart, but if the money disparity gets too great over time will it become poachable?

All it would take is NC State and a Virginia school to want to step up in prestige and money.

No we don't want the Sooners and big mouth Stoops. They are a parasite.

No way Sooners invited before A&M. Aggies not worried about conferences. We could join PAC 12 or B1G next month if we wanted to.

$134 million/year in incremental cable subscription fees in Texas is too much for any conference to turn down.

Looking forward to season so these stupid threads stop.

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Apparently there's a segment of OU fans that think they can just waltz right into the SEC and demand that the SEC take not just OU but OSU too. They're fricking delusional.

Oh, and then the kU fans seem to think that the B12 can simply "allow" Nebraska to come back to the B12 or as an alternative, some combination of North Dakota State, Army, Navy and Air Force will save the B12.

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Yeah, I've been grazing the LandThieves link cardboard posted and the Whorn delusion seems to be contagious.

It's an entertaining mix of arrogance and angst. Dust Bunnies moving imaginary chess pieces - thinking they're better than the SEC, but desperately wanting in - tempered with the sobering anger that they F'd themselves into a box of their own making by latching onto to Texas hind teet.

LO-freakin'XII-L!

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They forget Big 12 money is currently from a contract negotiated when Mizzou, A&M, and CU were still around.

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Actually I think it was renegotiated after NU and CU left. It was a big bribe to keep Texas and OU around. No doubt they are far overpaid for their inventory of crappy games.

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It's not ready to break apart, but if the money disparity gets too great over time will it become poachable? All it would take is NC State and a Virginia school to want to step up in prestige and money.

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No ACC school is going to see a move to SEC as a step in prestige.

The main money difference right now is ACC doesn't have its own network. But it pulled in quite a bit of money last year and it's revenue has nearly doubled since 2010, due to the ESPN contract and 3 new teams coming in.

Given Ark, Tenn, Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Florida have had major struggles in SEC over recent years, what is the prestige of the SEC? It is just a group of universities.

ok well never heard anybody talk about Tenn as being the bees knees. Never heard anybody talk about Tenn period.

There are probably a lot of pretentious types at Duke and UVA and UNC and Wake who view schools in eastern TN, AL, MS, Lousianaa as the opposite of prestigious.

Duke, UNC, Wake, UVA didn't have a problem associating with Clemson in 1954 and we've been together every since. G Tech joined in 1978 and they seem to have no problem with us.

I still don't get how a school becomes more prestigious by moving to another conference. It is still the same school.

Schools like UVA and UNC are't that southern as somebody said. A ton of out of state students from the north and elsewhere, and a lot of the in state students had recently moved to the state from elsewhere. Those students most likely would prefer to move to to BIg 10 if there was a change of conference.

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You're right. Clemson basically hands out high school diplomas, but that doesn't devalue a Duke education.

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I'm sure you are an expert on Duke's education and Clemson's education, as somebody who attended neither. This is basically like a person reviewing and comparing two restaurants that he has never had a meal in.

Clemson is highly ranked in US News and other sources and it is a fraction of the cost of Duke. It also has a lot more alumni, and a better engineering and architecture college. Going to Duke at the undergrad level is silly. I'm sure it is ok for med school but most med schools should be ok, given there are only so many of them.

It is my understanding that some of the ACC schools voted against inviting West Virginia, so it is possible that those ACC schools would vote against several SEC schools being invited. So why would they see it as a step up in prestige to move to SEC? Is the theory that they would improve dramatically in football if they moved to SEC? I'm skeptical about that.

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Why would any SEC school care at all?

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You just finished saying moving to SEC would be a step up in prestige for these ACC schools.

But there is a good chance they wouldn't even invite you to their conference, due to their snobbery. I'm saying you don't see things how some ACC members see it.

None of the current ACC programs lack for money. Even Wake is building a new high pricetag football facility. Clemson has new stuff going up all over.

GIven the struggles of several SEC programs in recent years, obviously conference related money does not make your program a winner.

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Jaime, Sorry to see you get the ban over at LTs. They think its still 1985 over there. Can you imagine the melt if they hadn't beaten an unmotivated Bama team a couple years ago!?

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Did I? I figured I would but no big deal. The alcohol was flowing last night. lol

I think it is funny they think they are too good for the Big 12 when they aren't even winning the conference. They basically want to leave because looks like TCU and Baylor own it now. It would be like Clemson leaving the ACC if Wake and Duke were starting to own us. They just want to avoid humiliation by changing conferences.