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re: Does Ole Miss have a legit chance to win the secw

Posted on 3/30/16 at 11:00 am to
Posted by GuyonaBuffalo
Member since Jan 2014
639 posts
Posted on 3/30/16 at 11:00 am to
Short answer: no

Long answer: no, the o-line will be the downfall. Kelly will still make plays but in critical moments it wont be enough.

Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22456 posts
Posted on 3/30/16 at 11:05 am to
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They had their chance last year.


I agree.

I think last year was a better shot than this year.

You never know though.

Ole Miss has been doing really well under Freeze.
Posted by TSUNgummybear
In Denial
Member since Jan 2013
496 posts
Posted on 3/30/16 at 11:06 am to
NO! NO! and NO again!!

He didn't mean it guys, he got off his leash on that one.



Posted by VivaZapata27
Natchez, Ms
Member since Apr 2013
3573 posts
Posted on 3/30/16 at 11:09 am to
Came within one play last year and should be better. Of course they do. It's all about the schedule though and ours is tough. Luckily we play Bama and UGA at home and are usually pretty competitive in Tiger stadium, even with lesser teams. The Key for Ole Miss will be nailing down both road games at TAMU and Arky. I believe we split lsu/Bama and win all the others.
Posted by TSUNgummybear
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Member since Jan 2013
496 posts
Posted on 3/30/16 at 11:12 am to
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That's why it doesn't matter if Bama loses to them


Knowing good and damn well, at the time, you thought Bama's chance of NCG and SECCG were over after that loss.
Posted by TSUNgummybear
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Member since Jan 2013
496 posts
Posted on 3/30/16 at 11:17 am to


Agreed.
Posted by rebsfan10
Member since Dec 2013
1568 posts
Posted on 3/30/16 at 11:18 am to
I think we have a chance, but smart money would say Bama or LSU. Kelly is the best returning SEC qb, but Bama and LSU return so much talent on the defensive side of the ball, it will take a lot more than Kelly to beat them. Our offensive line is losing the best lineman we have ever had and also lost the best receiver in school history. Those are big losses. Getting Bama at home will help and the fact it will be the first big SEC game on the road for Barnett gives us a little advantage, but Bama has the revenge factor going and Nick Saban. I think LSU is the most talented team in the nation so as long as their QB can just be competent, they will make a run at the National Championship. SEC West is just a monster. IF we were in the East I'd say will be in Atlanta, but Bama and LSU are two top 5 teams so we will have to get lucky.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
44333 posts
Posted on 3/30/16 at 11:30 am to
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should be better


I love this new strategy by OM fans.
Posted by VivaZapata27
Natchez, Ms
Member since Apr 2013
3573 posts
Posted on 3/30/16 at 11:54 am to
All things being equal, we have a more experienced QB. We should be better. Four year composite recruiting rankings of this team is around nine. That's never been the case here in my lifetime. Recruiting well is a good strategy, IMO.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
44333 posts
Posted on 3/30/16 at 11:56 am to
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All things being equal, we have a more experienced QB.


All things being equal, you lose a shite load of talent to the draft and graduation. Saying you will be better in 2016 is ignorant.

LSU fans did it in 2013 & 2014.
Posted by Pinche Cabron
TN
Member since Nov 2015
3639 posts
Posted on 3/30/16 at 11:56 am to
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I think we have a chance, but smart money would say Bama or LSU. Kelly is the best returning SEC qb, but Bama and LSU return so much talent on the defensive side of the ball, it will take a lot more than Kelly to beat them. Our offensive line is losing the best lineman we have ever had and also lost the best receiver in school history. Those are big losses. Getting Bama at home will help and the fact it will be the first big SEC game on the road for Barnett gives us a little advantage, but Bama has the revenge factor going and Nick Saban. I think LSU is the most talented team in the nation so as long as their QB can just be competent, they will make a run at the National Championship. SEC West is just a monster. IF we were in the East I'd say will be in Atlanta, but Bama and LSU are two top 5 teams so we will have to get lucky.


Solid post
Posted by VivaZapata27
Natchez, Ms
Member since Apr 2013
3573 posts
Posted on 3/30/16 at 11:59 am to
We lost a class with a composite rating of 45. And three other players. Two of them at position groups we WILL MOST DEFINITELY BE BETTER AT overall. The other missed most of our games last year, including two of our losses. The lowest rated class on campus is 15.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
44333 posts
Posted on 3/30/16 at 12:06 pm to
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We lost a class with a composite rating of 45. And three other players. Two of them at position groups we WILL MOST DEFINITELY BE BETTER AT overall. The other missed most of our games last year, including two of our losses. The lowest rated class on campus is 15.




Keep talking about recruiting rankings if it makes you feel better. It won't change the fact that OM is going to be replacing 6 players out of the front 7 and 2 on the back end. Not to mention the best tackle in the country, the starting RB and 2 very good receivers.
This post was edited on 3/30/16 at 12:07 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 3/30/16 at 12:08 pm to
Sure they have a chance. Great QB, great WRs, solid defense, relatively easy schedule comparatively (UGA at home, @ Vandy)

vs Alabama
vs Georgia
vs Auburn
vs State
@ Arkansas
@ LSU
@ A&M
@ Vandy

It will all come down to depth, as usual for Ole Miss, IMHO.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
44333 posts
Posted on 3/30/16 at 12:10 pm to
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Sure they have a chance. Great QB, great WRs, solid defense, relatively easy schedule comparatively (UGA at home, @ Vandy)


I would be very hesitant to call their defense solid next year. They are losing a lot of players from an underwhelming defense.
This post was edited on 3/30/16 at 12:12 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 3/30/16 at 12:13 pm to
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I would be very hesitant to call their defense solid next year. They are losing a lot of players from an underwhelming defense.


I think, like most years, they have solid defensive play the first 1/3 to 1/2 of the year and then attrition takes its toll and things really take a turn.

Could be wrong, though.
Posted by VivaZapata27
Natchez, Ms
Member since Apr 2013
3573 posts
Posted on 3/30/16 at 12:16 pm to
let's see, last year's starting dline of Haynes/Nkemdiche/Jones/Brown loses one guy. His backup was dominant and we return an all SEC guy in Gross from injury. Johnson and Gates were our starting LBs by year's end. Gates, the returner, was our team's leading tackler. We lose only two of our five secondary starters. The defense isn't dropping off. And that's not hoping. 4/5 top rushers return and the WR group will be overall the best we've ever had. Our most significant oline loss missed the majority of the games last year. I'm not saying we will be better as a whole, just that we aren't going to be any worse. So, all things being equal we should be a better team with a more experienced QB.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
44333 posts
Posted on 3/30/16 at 12:17 pm to
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I think, like most years, they have solid defensive play the first 1/3 to 1/2 of the year and then attrition takes its toll and things really take a turn.


Well, if you want to use QB experience as a reason their offense will be better, even though they are losing their top WR/OL/RB, then you have to say they are going to take a couple of steps back on defense because of a lack of returning experience.

Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
51132 posts
Posted on 3/30/16 at 12:17 pm to
I would say yeah they do.
Posted by hehatedrew
New Zealand
Member since Oct 2009
25504 posts
Posted on 3/30/16 at 12:18 pm to
Our defense was noticeably worse when Tony Connor went down. Thank god he is back now
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