re: Does Chavis need a ball control offense, with elite Time of Possession?

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Chavis D needs to get enough stops & turnovers to rank in the top 80

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aTm's scoring D was ranked 77th in 2014. So, top 80 isn't good enough.

The difference between aTm's scoring D and a top 50 spot, which is what many aTm posters seems to believe will have you competing for titles, was less than 3 PPG. You guys really should do some research before posting.

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Again, he's a great coordinator and will be a big improvement at tamu, but given how close he is to retirement, plus the talent and scheme in College Station, it would really surprise me if he starts consistently fielding the ridiculous defenses he did at Tennessee and LSU.

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I will take this time to point out that Auburn thought Ted Roof was their problem for the longest time, but it turned out the problem was at the top. Brian VanGorter couldn't save them, and Theodore went to Penn State and coordinated a much more competent defense than anything Chizik put on the field.

In summation, it might not be Mark Snyder, the nightmare scenario is if it is Kevin Sumlin.

Must suck to constantly try and sell your teams future off of LSUs success. Now go back and look at Champ and Bo Pelini's total D rankings before and after their time in Baton Rouge.

Now address this "attacking d" myth, and explain to all of us why LSU finished 13th in the SEC in sacks last year

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But it is logical to assume that an offense like Sumlin's will hamper defensive statistics, regardless of who the coordinator is. If they are scoring rapidly, that's more possessions in which the defense has to be on the field. Conversely, if they are running hurry up and going three and out or only getting 6-7 offensive snaps off before turning it over, that's less time for the defense to recoup before taking the field again.

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When did Sumlin suddenly become a genius again? This past fall was nothing short of a massive aggie melt about how inept Sumlin is. Now he's suddenly a hybrid Malzahn/Norm Chow again despite the fact his offenses get worse each year he's been there.

He left Houston a mess, his record has gotten worse each season, and just about every good defense they've faced the past two seasons hasn't even had much problems with them. The best asset Chavis is going to be for Sumlin is helping him fix his glaring flaws in his scheme, because no one understands sumlin's gameplan more than Chavis

If my rooting interest was for Texas A&M, I would be most concerned about the offensive line and replacing the immense advantage they had stocked there. Offense is going to be the bread and butter for them, they have to protect their signal caller and get SOMETHING out of the running game.

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Chavis just needs an offense to take the pressure off of him. Something he never got in Baton Rouge.

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Yep, that's all he needs. Never mind all the times even our shitty offense had the lead with under 2 minutes to go and he would insist on sitting 15-20 yards off the ball and let teams march right down the field. That's all the offenses fault.

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I genuinely just thought the numbers were interesting.

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They are. I wasn't trying to refute anything you said. You can't bring up Chavis or Steele, or god forbid both in the same post without people melting. I was just saying numbers aside, he's a good coordinator, but this will be the first time since he started at Tennessee that he'll be faced with implementing "his" scheme/style while also dealing with a roster that isn't loaded with NFL talent.

It'll be interesting to see how the next few years pan out. He's going to finish out in College Station unless Butch gets canned and UT finally offers him the HC position up there (they've never called him once about it since Fulmer got fired and its his dream job).

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If I just gave you the average yardage and score given up, that would tell you LESS.

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How?

You really don't believe looking at a plot of actual TOP versus yards or points allowed would be a more valuable metric?

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When a Chavis defense has to deal with a team TOP that is ranked #103, then nearly every other defense in D1 is getting more help from their offense.

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Not sure what this statement is actually trying to say. I do know as an LSU fan I could have given a shite what our defense was ranked if it didn't translate to 10+ wins. It's easy to pad stats when most of the seasons Chavis coached boiled down to just beating Bama and either AU or UF any given year. When the entire season is lumped and averaged, it hides the actual game to game trends, which is something I suspect you know and are counting on.

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They are. I wasn't trying to refute anything you said. You can't bring up Chavis or Steele, or god forbid both in the same post without people melting.

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Please, this thread is pretty good on the talk. In fact, Aggy admits bringing up Steele was a mistake.

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If my rooting interest was for Texas A&M, I would be most concerned about the offensive line and replacing the immense advantage they had stocked there

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It's certainly a concern of mine. Not as big of a concern this season as our LB and DB depth, but one for the future that will need to be addressed.