re: Does Chavis need a ball control offense, with elite Time of Possession?

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Funny thing is, that was the worst ranked scoring defense under Chavis. 2nd worst total D.

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Also one his worst choking defenses

Correlation, Causation, yadda yadda

Your defense just does not have the depth to be running around all game long. LSU has had that the past few years

The rankings of TOP and and total/scoring D are meaningless stats without actual values. That's like saying my dick is the third biggest on this board. It's true, and illustrates that I am humble, but doesn't provide context or measurables. I'll admit this TOP point is beaten like a drum and I don't completely buy it, but this is a pretty shakey way to go about debunking it.

I'll counter by saying ags love to criticize Steele for the Clemson gave when he gave up a lot of points. That same season, Chavis allowed the same WVU team ~550 yards of total offense. They both essentially got out-schemed, but one got bailed out by special teams and an offense that could drive the field and eat clock.

Yeah yeah 3rd and Chavis.

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3rd Down %: Steele 39.487 Chavis 35.27

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- Floridatiger420

Although Florida tiger was right Chavis had more talent, he failed to factor in the competitions talent.

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The talent on Clemson's roster was marginally better, in comparison to the rest of the ACC, than LSU's is in comparison to the SEC.

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-RB10

LSU's average recruit is about 3.1 puts higher than the average SEC recruit
Clemson's during Steele was about 3.6 points higher.

I'd be willing to even call that a wash, since they're only marginally different.

No. He just needs elite talent like most other "great" coordinators. LSU still lost this round of musical chairs. Chief immediately makes the aggie's at least respectable. Check out the talent they already have in College Station.

I shouldn't be surprised that this would come back to Steele. This whole defelection relies solely on your belief that I think Steele is some great tactician or field general. I don't. Neither do you. So if the best thing you can say about Chavis is you think he'll be better than Steele, that's damning with feint praise if I ever saw it.

Muschump is a loser. Auburn is paying for the emperors new clothes.

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Steele may do fine for Yall, I was purely pointing out third and Chavis is a misnomer

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Anyone who thinks Steele is clueless about defense is out of their minds with his experience and mentoring from so many greats. honestly it looks like his biggest flaw is that his multiple sets make for a lack of identity that's too confusing for the players

With O handling the line, Raymond secondary, and Steele linebackers, he just needs to simplify his system with how well coached were are with the talent here and coming in.


Basically, Steele should be nominated as an all-time worst with the staff and talent around him, with probably the #1 recruiting class on the way. It's going to be difficult for him to frick up

I wouldn't say he "needs" a ball control offense any more than any other defensive coordinator.

But it is logical to assume that an offense like Sumlin's will hamper defensive statistics, regardless of who the coordinator is. If they are scoring rapidly, that's more possessions in which the defense has to be on the field. Conversely, if they are running hurry up and going three and out or only getting 6-7 offensive snaps off before turning it over, that's less time for the defense to recoup before taking the field again.

The Chavis ordeal has gotten to the point where you can't really talk about it honestly, because it turns into a jerk off contest--which we know the ags will win (sorry, couldn't help myself).

But he's a great coordinator, one of the top 5 or so in the game. The talent and scheme at tamu isn't there for him to field top flight defenses yet, but he's an huge upgrade regardless of what LSU fans will say.

Despite this, he isn't without his flaws. The guy doesn't recruit well. His specialty is supposedly linebackers, but that was usually an area at LSU that wasn't up to par with the secondary or D-line. There would be a good-great MLB generally, but LSU always seemed thin on the outside.

Also, third and Chavis is real. Its not as if no lead is safe, but playing prevent defense under CFB rules is just plain stupid--nickle and diming a defense with a time out and 1:00min left is possible because of the clock stoppages.

Again, he's a great coordinator and will be a big improvement at tamu, but given how close he is to retirement, plus the talent and scheme in College Station, it would really surprise me if he starts consistently fielding the ridiculous defenses he did at Tennessee and LSU.