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re: Does anyone else think Mack Brown is way overrated?
Posted on 1/12/10 at 4:29 pm to Bellabama
Posted on 1/12/10 at 4:29 pm to Bellabama
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I just don't know if he's worth $5 million a year.
Did you see how much money Texas Football netted last year? A ginormous Metric shite ton........squared!
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I think he's a little overrated.
meh...won a BCS NC, SHOULD have been in it last year, lost to Bama with a freshman qb going the whole way.
I'd say he is damn good.
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Posted on 1/12/10 at 4:29 pm to Bellabama
I think he's a terrific coach. But not worth 5 mill. Urban Meyer has done much more than anyone else and he doesn't get paid that much.
Posted on 1/12/10 at 4:29 pm to Bellabama
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He did... but Mack's been there a long time. I'm not saying he's not a good coach. I just don't know if he's worth $5 million a year. I think he's a little overrated.
At Texas 7 Seasons before he went undefeated
You could make same argument for Saban who had 7 seasons between 2 BCS conference schools prior to undefeated. As they said Saban would drop a game a year while at LSU and they have said Mack would drop a game a year until he won it all.
Posted on 1/12/10 at 4:34 pm to Number 3 is my Hero
Any coach that quadruples the revenue of the athletic program is worth $5M / year. Think of it as that is his commission. I have ZERO problem with him getting paid.
What's funny is that a bunch of professors at UT sent letters to the President of the University asking why he was getting paid so much.
Uh, the athletic foundation is completely separte from the university and it's state allocated money.
PAY THE MAN.
What's funny is that a bunch of professors at UT sent letters to the President of the University asking why he was getting paid so much.
Uh, the athletic foundation is completely separte from the university and it's state allocated money.
PAY THE MAN.
Posted on 1/12/10 at 4:41 pm to Tiger n Austin
It's hard to say he is overrated by the media. His name is very rarely brought up when talking about the top coaches in the country. More often than not that list includes Meyer, Carroll, Saban. And that is probably very unfair.
If Brown had not won his lone National Championship it would be hard to make a case for him to be considered an elite coach. BUT, he does have one and his teams win a lot.
Bobby Bowden only won 3 in 24542353 years at FSU, is he overrated too? Stretch Brown's success over a 20-25 years span and you'd have to figure he'd have at least 3.
I live in Cookeville, TN - Mack's hometown, so maybe I'm biased, but I think he is a great coach. Elite? Maybe he does need to win another title, but maybe not.
If Brown had not won his lone National Championship it would be hard to make a case for him to be considered an elite coach. BUT, he does have one and his teams win a lot.
Bobby Bowden only won 3 in 24542353 years at FSU, is he overrated too? Stretch Brown's success over a 20-25 years span and you'd have to figure he'd have at least 3.
I live in Cookeville, TN - Mack's hometown, so maybe I'm biased, but I think he is a great coach. Elite? Maybe he does need to win another title, but maybe not.
Posted on 1/12/10 at 4:43 pm to Bellabama
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I just don't know if he's worth $5 million a year. I think he's a little overrated.
I can't even begin to tell you how influential Mack Brown has been to Texas football. His teams have won 10 or more games for 9 straight years. The loss to Bama is his first bowl loss in God knows when. He runs a clean program, genuinely cares for his players, loves UT and Austin, and in turn he is beloved here. Our football stadium will soon be 2nd to none thanks to the increased revenue the program brings in, not only from ticket sales, but also from alumni contributions. He has re-energized a fan base that was prone to showing up late, sitting on their hands, and leaving early. Texas games are fun again. DKR is loud and intimidating, two words that were never used to describe it before Mack got here. It goes so much deeper than just winning games. By the time he retires, he may eclipse Texas' own version of Bear Bryant (Darryl Royal) as our school's most revered football coach.
Posted on 1/12/10 at 4:59 pm to LouisianaLonghorn
You had me right until you said "Loud and intimidating"
The Home games the last few years have not been of the highest quality. Texas Tech was the best home game this year...Arkansas maybe the year before. Plus, all UT games are early as shite (outside of TT this year).
The Home games the last few years have not been of the highest quality. Texas Tech was the best home game this year...Arkansas maybe the year before. Plus, all UT games are early as shite (outside of TT this year).
Posted on 1/12/10 at 5:00 pm to LouisianaLonghorn
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I can't even begin to tell you how influential Mack Brown has been to Texas football. His teams have won 10 or more games for 9 straight years. The loss to Bama is his first bowl loss in God knows when. He runs a clean program, genuinely cares for his players, loves UT and Austin, and in turn he is beloved here. Our football stadium will soon be 2nd to none thanks to the increased revenue the program brings in, not only from ticket sales, but also from alumni contributions. He has re-energized a fan base that was prone to showing up late, sitting on their hands, and leaving early. Texas games are fun again. DKR is loud and intimidating, two words that were never used to describe it before Mack got here. It goes so much deeper than just winning games. By the time he retires, he may eclipse Texas' own version of Bear Bryant (Darryl Royal) as our school's most revered football coach.
This.
I knew I was right. Well said.
Posted on 1/12/10 at 5:16 pm to BamaInHsv
This is interesting...
Per Rivals
06 Top 100 Texas Recruits
Tech 12 ranked #26
Texas 20 ranked #5
TAMU 12 ranked #25
05 Top 100 Texas Recruits
Tech 8 not Ranked on list I had
Texas 11 not Ranked on list I had
TAMU 16 ranked #6
04 Top 100 Texas Recruits
Tech 5 ranked #33
Texas 17 ranked #10
TAMU 13 ranked #13
Top 100 total headcount:
UT 48
AG 41
TT 25
Now, either Rivals is way off on Aggie only or someone can't A. Coach B. Eval C. Win
Looking at this, one would think Aggie has a little bit of a foothold and could take Texas to the limit. Instead, Mack and Co. hold them off and only have OU in their B12S way. And in Fran's defense (OT), does the above look like he left "the cupboard bare" which allows for the subsequent Aggie "we're young" hullabaloo?
Mack is worth every cent.
Posted on 1/12/10 at 5:17 pm to RMFTBama
Hell no
Posted on 1/12/10 at 5:33 pm to Dax
Mack Brown is a wonderful coach, and from what I hear, a really good person. I think you are just excited about our National Championship, which is causing you to forget how rare it is to get one. Do you really think we will win more than maybe one more national championship in the next ten years? it would be mighty impressive if we did, and I am not getting my hopes up.
Posted on 1/12/10 at 5:48 pm to Funky Tide 8
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Do you really think we will win more than maybe one more national championship in the next ten years? it would be mighty impressive if we did, and I am not getting my hopes up.
If Saban can continue to do what he has done the last two years, then I think it's very possible we can see Bama there again. Definitely in contention.
Posted on 1/12/10 at 5:51 pm to CaptainBrannigan
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He had saban the great playing scared enough to try a fake punt.
That was the first offensive possession, barner.
Posted on 1/12/10 at 5:54 pm to Number 3 is my Hero
He doesn't have to leave Texas for players, not many other schools can say that. Let's face it, Bama is not known for producing QB's, LA has ups and downs at different positions.
It's one of the reasons Muschamp took the job in waiting, he doesn't have to leave Texas to recruit.
Brown was successful at UNC with no real recruiting base and he does hire great assistants which is what you get paid to do.
It's one of the reasons Muschamp took the job in waiting, he doesn't have to leave Texas to recruit.
Brown was successful at UNC with no real recruiting base and he does hire great assistants which is what you get paid to do.
Posted on 1/12/10 at 6:00 pm to Tiger n Austin
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Plus, all UT games are early as shite (outside of TT this year).
True....but we did have 2 night home games this past season. I can only hope for more. Those late morning/early afternoon kickoffs suck!
As far as DKR being loud, I meant in comparison to how it was before Mack arrived. That being said, I went to 2 LSU games this year and Tiger Stadium aint what it used to be. People leaving in the 3rd quarter against Arkansas....WTF??
Posted on 1/12/10 at 6:00 pm to GoHoGsGo06
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He was however really good at UNC before arriving at Texas
Mack was 69-46-1 at UNC when the ACC was arguably a worse conference that it is now (1988-1997). That's a 0.5991 winning percentage...a number that would likely get you fired in the SEC.
I think he's an adequate coach and he should have done better at UT than he's done.
Posted on 1/12/10 at 6:04 pm to RMFTBama
No I think he is going to be a good running back for FLorida!!
Posted on 1/12/10 at 6:27 pm to geauxtigersfromcali
Mack Brown is not overrated....He is the biggest whiner in the NCAA.....no doubt about it
Posted on 1/12/10 at 6:30 pm to bamascott2
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Mack was 69-46-1 at UNC when the ACC was arguably a worse conference that it is now (1988-1997). That's a 0.5991 winning percentage...a number that would likely get you fired in the SEC.
They were becoming a powerful program before he left. Had two seasons IIRC before he left that had them competing with FSU for the title.
Posted on 1/12/10 at 6:34 pm to Duke
Well UNC was such a power house prior to Mack Brown, I mean 13 winning seasons in previous 29 seasons. Only 2 seasons of 10 wins or more in 29 seasons, and 3 seasons of 9 wins.
POWERHOUSE
POWERHOUSE
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