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re: Does anyone else think Mack Brown is way overrated?

Posted on 1/12/10 at 3:45 pm to
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 1/12/10 at 3:45 pm to
Mack Brown is a very good coach
Posted by TejasHorn
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Posted on 1/12/10 at 3:50 pm to
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keep in mind some of those great texas recruits (texas is 1. in HS recruits) go to oklahoma


OU currently has 46 players on it's 102-man roster from Texas. I think they have around 35 from Oklahoma.
This post was edited on 1/12/10 at 3:52 pm
Posted by nothingbutawinner00
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Posted on 1/12/10 at 3:51 pm to
I think he's a good coach, but some of the stuff before the game made it sound like he wasn't very hands on, like a Bowden type.

I'm sure he's more involved than Bobby was, either way he does well, and should at Texas.
Posted by Sao
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Posted on 1/12/10 at 3:51 pm to
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keep in mind some of those great texas recruits (texas is 1. in HS recruits) go to oklahoma



For the 2007 signing class there were 375 HS Sr's from Texas that signed to a D-1 school. Texas (and OU) can't get them all nor do they get 1-50 on the Texas 100. When you think about this, it makes what Aggie does on a consistent basis mind-boggling. How the "second" football program in the state can under-perform like they do just makes one scratch your head. And until Aggie figures it out (or gets female cheerleaders, whichever comes first), Texas will always dominate the state.
Posted by adammwilson
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Posted on 1/12/10 at 3:52 pm to
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OU currently has 46 players on it's 102-man roster from Texas.


thanks for looking it up i knew it was a high number
Posted by cardee2003
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Posted on 1/12/10 at 3:52 pm to
He is a great coach and recruiter
Posted by adammwilson
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Posted on 1/12/10 at 3:53 pm to
also dont forget in my mind Texas Tech have passed Texas A&M as the 2nd best football school in that state
Posted by Number 3 is my Hero
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Posted on 1/12/10 at 3:53 pm to
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For the 2007 signing class there were 375 HS Sr's from Texas that signed to a D-1 school. Texas (and OU) can't get them all nor do they get 1-50 on the Texas 100. When you think about this, it makes what Aggie does on a consistent basis mind-boggling. How the "second" football program in the state can under-perform like they do just makes one scratch your head. And until Aggie figures it out (or gets female cheerleaders, whichever comes first), Texas will always dominate the state.


This just proves he is an elite coach. You see teams from talent rich states (Florida State, UCLA, Texas A&M) and Mack has produced on consistent basis proves he can coach. It is not just the players especially winning 10+ games for as many consecutive years as he has.
Posted by RMFTBama
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Posted on 1/12/10 at 3:55 pm to
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BamaInHSV


I know it's impossible for you to see a thread on this board and restrain yourself from responding to it, but calling this a "fricking stupid" thread because Mack is a "quality guy" is equally stupid. I didn't ask if he was a good person, and his quality of personality has nothing to do with his coaching prowess. But thanks for playing.
Posted by BamaInHsv
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Posted on 1/12/10 at 3:56 pm to
Because of some thread, I had to think who I'd want if Nick Saban left. The first guy I thought of was Mack Brown. But I'd want him a little younger so he wouldn't immediately retire.
Posted by Sao
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Posted on 1/12/10 at 3:57 pm to

I too think ATM is the UCLA of college football. Good comparison. In Florida at least the Big 3 have all won a BCSCG.

Honestly, having Aggie be Aggie helps out a great number of schools. Us to a low extent but LSU to a GREAT extent. I just don't get it.

Sorry to derail.
Posted by Bellabama
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Posted on 1/12/10 at 3:58 pm to
All I know is that before Vince won the BCS, people were ready to have Mackdaddy's head in Austin. Even now, they usually expect him to lose at least one big game a season.

I think $5 million is a lot to pay someone for that.

This post was edited on 1/12/10 at 3:59 pm
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
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Posted on 1/12/10 at 4:00 pm to
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I think he's a good coach, but some of the stuff before the game made it sound like he wasn't very hands on, like a Bowden type.


I think Tuberville is a better analogy. He is more of a CEO type also. But he can turn it on when he needs to (sometimes).
Posted by Tiger n Austin
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Posted on 1/12/10 at 4:05 pm to
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He is the head coach at the school with the greatest amount of football revenue and is supported by incredibly rich boosters


When Mack took over UT program...revenue was around 20M...fast forward 10 years later and it is almost 90M. Coach Macovich(sp?) before him ran a complete clusterfrick of the program and alienated boosters and the highschool coaches and alumni in the state.

I think Brown's greatest achievement in building the program to the elite status of today is that has galvonized all of these crucial areas into one well oiled machine. It's easy to say "well, he has all the resources...he should win"...but he made the program what it is today.
Posted by TejasHorn
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Posted on 1/12/10 at 4:11 pm to
In the early 90's, there were many influential Texas boosters who supported the hiring of John Mackovic because they wanted UT to be more like a "Stanford" of the South.

I sh*t you not. People, I cannot emphasize enough what Mack Brown has done for UT football, the University, and I'll go so far as the state of football in Texas.
Posted by Number 3 is my Hero
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Posted on 1/12/10 at 4:14 pm to
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All I know is that before Vince won the BCS, people were ready to have Mackdaddy's head in Austin. Even now, they usually expect him to lose at least one big game a season.

I think $5 million is a lot to pay someone for that.


Didn't Saban have same reputation prior to going undefeated this season? That he would drop a game he should not every year?
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 1/12/10 at 4:20 pm to
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also dont forget in my mind Texas Tech have passed Texas A&M as the 2nd best football school in that state

I'd put TCU ahead of them right now too.

quote:

I just don't get it.

I dont' either and the only explanation is...

b/c they're Aggies.
Posted by adammwilson
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Posted on 1/12/10 at 4:23 pm to
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I'd put TCU ahead of them right now too.


good save
Posted by LouisianaLonghorn
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Posted on 1/12/10 at 4:25 pm to
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Even now, they usually expect him to lose at least one big game a season.
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I think $5 million is a lot to pay someone for that.

With the exception of this season at Bama, the same can be said of Saban.
Posted by Bellabama
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Posted on 1/12/10 at 4:26 pm to
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Didn't Saban have same reputation prior to going undefeated this season? That he would drop a game he should not every year?


He did... but Mack's been there a long time. I'm not saying he's not a good coach. I just don't know if he's worth $5 million a year. I think he's a little overrated.


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