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re: Dispelling the myth of "3rd and Chavis"
Posted on 7/28/15 at 11:03 pm to KaiserSoze99
Posted on 7/28/15 at 11:03 pm to KaiserSoze99
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The Thanksgiving day loss to the fricking longhorns in 2011? That was on RYAN TANNEHILL's shitty game and stupid pick 6, and on SHERMAN's shitty play calling and general lack of game-day coaching. We bitch about the longhorn fan ref J. Taylor who made the infamous targeting call that put the fricking longhorns in position to win, but the blame fell on Ryan Tannehill;s poor performance and Shermans shitty coaching. That's not emotion. It's reason and logic,
A FAR more relevant example is the Oklahoma State game.
In the first half, A&M led 20-3. A&M had run the ball 20 times for over 150 yards in the first half.
In the second half, LEADING BY 17, A&M rushed the ball five times. FIVE TIMES WHEN LEADING BY 3 SCORES.
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Posted on 7/28/15 at 11:05 pm to TeLeFaWx
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Turnover margin is a huge determining factor in a game.
It's a factor but it's not always the deciding factor. If that was the case, the Cowboys should have been in the Super Bowl in '82 & Joe Montana & 49ers should have been at home watching. There are numerous other instances of teams losing the turnover battle yet winning game but the game I chose to highlight was one of the most memorable games in football history.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 11:06 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
I was posting games where the late scores resulted in a loss but they will work too. 
Posted on 7/28/15 at 11:11 pm to BigBrod81
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It's a factor but it's not always the deciding factor. If that was the case, the Cowboys should have been in the Super Bowl in '82 & Joe Montana & 49ers should have been at home watching.
This is a logical fallacy. Sports are happenstance. Turning the ball over three times more often than not (and by a wide margin) is going to be worse than conceding a field goal. You can bring up one instance where it doesn't, and it doesn't change that reality.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 11:15 pm to TeLeFaWx
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You can bring up one instance where it doesn't, and it doesn't change that reality.
It happens more times than you want to believe it does.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 11:16 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
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You forgot LSU vs. U. of Washington 2009
LSU led 30-16 with 1:54 left to play, gives up a TD...
Wait... now you're using games LSU actually won as evidence that Chavis loses games late?
Posted on 7/28/15 at 11:18 pm to BigBrod81
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It happens more times than you want to believe it does.
It happens, but turnover margin is one of the strongest win indicators. I know you can win the game if you turnover the ball more, that doesn't mean you should do it, or that one game where someone wins in spite of turnover margin should be an indictment on anything. Do you see how you are presenting a logical fallacy or not? Because I don't want to waste too much more time on this.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 11:18 pm to texag7
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Dispelling the myth of "3rd and Chavis"
Overpaid in LSU terms means "we can't afford".
Your absolutely correct. LSU could not afford to come in "2nd" with all the Defensive talent in State this year.......So LSU sent their 2 worst recruiters to Texas.........LSU now has multiple top tier recruits from Texas Committed.........Aggie had a 3 Star LB from TN
What's funny is that every single current coach in the SEC has beaten Chavis except Butch Jones, Gary Pinkell, and Mason.........And Sumlin
Butch,Gary, and Mason never played Chavis.......Sumlin has.....3 times....and still can't figure out you need to run the ball!!!!
Of course he hired the guy that finished 9th out of 12 teams in the fricken PAC12 in ypc to fix his rushing game
3rd and Chavis will live on in Faggie land
Posted on 7/28/15 at 11:19 pm to texag7
Holy crap you aggys are a more sensitive bunch than LSU fans...and that is really saying something.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 11:20 pm to Dlab2013
And LSU hired someone who coached 32 conference games and won a grand total of 1. Yes, 1.
What a fricking joke
What a fricking joke
Posted on 7/28/15 at 11:27 pm to TeLeFaWx
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Do you see how you are presenting a logical fallacy or not?
When discussing the Ole Miss game that brought out this analysis concerning turnover margin, not its presenting a fallacy. Ole Miss had the ball in a time game with 2 minutes and some change & Chavis couldn't get his defense off of the field which ultimately lead to the game winning score. There was a 3rd & 6 where he didn't get it done. Plain & simple.
You can talk about turnovers all you want to in terms of the outcome of that particular game but change one turnover & it flips the entire game from that point. Chavis defense didn't manage to hold at the end. It's much easier to point at that fact than it is to go back & say what if to an event that occurred in the 1st quarter.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 11:30 pm to BigBrod81
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When discussing the Ole Miss game that brought out this analysis concerning turnover margin, not its presenting a fallacy. Ole Miss had the ball in a time game with 2 minutes and some change & Chavis couldn't get his defense off of the field which ultimately lead to the game winning score. There was a 3rd & 6 where he didn't get it done. Plain & simple.
No. Not plain and simple. That is the logical fallacy. Nothing happens in a vacuum. Every play matters. Every play that got you to that point mattered. Execution on every play isn't possible. Michael Jordan missed last second shots. There are plenty of players with higher percentage of making shots in the final play than Jordan. That doesn't mean you would rather have those guys instead of Jordan. This is why you are presenting a logical fallacy.
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You can talk about turnovers all you want to in terms of the outcome of that particular game but change one turnover & it flips the entire game from that point. Chavis defense didn't manage to hold at the end.
There are so many examples of them holding up at the end it's not even worth bringing up.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 11:31 pm to BigBrod81
LSU did not score a single point for the first 39 minutes of that game.
You're saying that's not an issue?
You're saying that's not an issue?
Posted on 7/28/15 at 11:38 pm to texag7
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texag7
Dispelling the myth of "3rd and Chavis"
LSU did not score a single point for the first 39 minutes of that game.
You're saying that's not an issue
0-59. Sumlin is a GURU. Chavis has it made now
Posted on 7/28/15 at 11:40 pm to Dlab2013
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0-59. Sumlin is a GURU. Chavis has it made now
Posted on 7/28/15 at 11:41 pm to Dlab2013
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0-59. Sumlin is a GURU. Chavis has it made now
Didn't y'all's defensive coordinator give up 70 the last time he ran a defense?
Posted on 7/28/15 at 11:52 pm to TeLeFaWx
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0-59. Sumlin is a GURU. Chavis has it made now
Didn't y'all's defensive coordinator give up 70 the last time he ran a defense?
Yep. But he was also on the sideline for the team with 59 points more recently.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:04 am to Dlab2013
So are the ags not coping with the fact that Chavis has this reputation since Tennessee or something?
I didn't believe it when we got him, just like they don't believe it now, but it's true nonetheless. By the time they see it it will be ten times worse because they're not going to know how to deal with being that close then having it all collapse at the last minute. They've either had the opposite with Manziel saving the day or they weren't even close. This is going to be a new level of pain.
They'll never beat Alabama again. That's a lock. And they'll be damn lucky to beat us any time soon.
But yeah... everyone he's ever coached for is wrong... no such thing as 3rd and Chavis.
You got this jizz jars.
YOU GOT THIS!!!
I didn't believe it when we got him, just like they don't believe it now, but it's true nonetheless. By the time they see it it will be ten times worse because they're not going to know how to deal with being that close then having it all collapse at the last minute. They've either had the opposite with Manziel saving the day or they weren't even close. This is going to be a new level of pain.
They'll never beat Alabama again. That's a lock. And they'll be damn lucky to beat us any time soon.
But yeah... everyone he's ever coached for is wrong... no such thing as 3rd and Chavis.
You got this jizz jars.
YOU GOT THIS!!!
Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:06 am to TeLeFaWx
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Didn't y'all's defensive coordinator give up 70 the last time he ran a defense?
yeah but if you give up 59, 70, 100000 or 2 if you score 0 you lose
Chavis can't fix the fact your offense goes Houdini in big games.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:10 am to texag7
Just like a dumb arse aggie, Tennessee fans gave him the 3rd and Chavis name which is not a myth but a fact. They tried to tell us when we hired him but we didn't listen. Now we are passing along the same thing. Yall can't be this stupid or maybe you are and I am just brilliant
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