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re: Could Saban recruit, and win championships, anywhere in the SEC?
Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:10 pm to scrooster
Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:10 pm to scrooster
No. I think he could at any major university like Georgia, Auburn, Tennessee, Florida, A&M, etc. but some locations simply don't have enough recruiting draw like Vandy and MSU.
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Posted on 7/19/14 at 3:08 pm to scrooster
If he's as good as the Bear he could do it at Kentucky.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 3:37 pm to cardboardboxer
It's hard to compare the cfb landscape in the 50s to the present day.
I don't think he could win championships at Kentucky.
I don't think he could win championships at Kentucky.
This post was edited on 7/19/14 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 7/19/14 at 4:23 pm to scrooster
I would omit Kentucky, Vandy, Miss St, Ole Miss, South Carolina, and Missouri.
Otherwise, after leaving LSU, he could have done equally as well at Florida, Georgia, A&M(especially here) and Auburn. And nearly as well at Arkansas or Tennessee.
It's all about recruiting.
Otherwise, after leaving LSU, he could have done equally as well at Florida, Georgia, A&M(especially here) and Auburn. And nearly as well at Arkansas or Tennessee.
It's all about recruiting.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 4:57 pm to SouthdownsTiger
Michigan State is a better program than Kentucky, Vandy, Miss. St., Ole Miss and he couldnt do it there. And that was a conference that was a two horse race. Yet, he couldn't get pass Michigan and Ohio State.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 5:08 pm to scrooster
Now... yes, because he has an almost living legend status that he could use to recruit and win at least one title at any school he wanted to.
Before his current run with us though, I think he would have struggled to win the conference at the lowest tier football schools.
I still fully believe that he would have won at least one title at any of the upper or mid tier SEC schools.
Before his current run with us though, I think he would have struggled to win the conference at the lowest tier football schools.
I still fully believe that he would have won at least one title at any of the upper or mid tier SEC schools.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 5:11 pm to TeamLSU
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Michigan State is a better program than Kentucky, Vandy, Miss. St., Ole Miss and he couldnt do it there. And that was a conference that was a two horse race. Yet, he couldn't get pass Michigan and Ohio State.
But what you are missing... is that as a coach's perception increases... his job as a recruiter gets easier.
Saban went from good coach at MSU, to National Championship coach at LSU, to basically a living legend at Alabama.
What Saban is doing probably hasn't changed drastically, but his perception has went through the roof during that passing of time and THAT is the difference.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 5:15 pm to scrooster
If Spurrier can take the pile of shite that was South Carolina football and make it a winner, I'm pretty sure that Saban could do the same at any SEC school.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 5:34 pm to scrooster
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I doubt he'd have had the success Spurrier has had, for example, in transforming Florida and South Carolina from meh to what they are now.
Kind of like what he did to both LSU and Alabama?
Posted on 7/19/14 at 5:48 pm to scrooster
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Could he do it at Arkansas?
I'd take my chances. I was gonna slit my throat if we would've really hired Lester though
Posted on 7/19/14 at 5:57 pm to BreakawayZou83
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If Spurrier can take the pile of shite that was South Carolina football and make it a winner, I'm pretty sure that Saban could do the same at any SEC school.
I just can't go along with this, mainly because I'm not convinced even Saban could convince enough southern talent, which is mostly south of there, to go up there in the first place.
SOS is only doing well up there because UGA has been hit or miss lately, and UF hasn't recovered from the cluster frick Urban Meyer left them in.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 6:02 pm to Hubbhogg
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I'd take my chances. I was gonna slit my throat if we would've really hired Lester though
As if Les would leave LSU for Arkansas.
Remember the cardinal rule hillbilly, never imbibe too heavily in your own shine', or else.
Posted on 7/20/14 at 12:48 am to scrooster
Anywhere? No.
At about 9-10 teams in the SEC? Yes.
At about 9-10 teams in the SEC? Yes.
This post was edited on 7/20/14 at 12:50 am
Posted on 7/20/14 at 12:49 am to RollTide1987
quote:Wow. You're seriously comparing LSU- a program with a prior national title, hanging in the top 20 overall in wins, with 7 SEC titles before Saban,... and fricking Alabama- the overall top team in the conference historically, with 23 SEC titles and double figure national titles before Saban, to
I doubt he'd have had the success Spurrier has had, for example, in transforming Florida and South Carolina from meh to what they are now.
Kind of like what he did to both LSU and Alabama?
Florida, with no official SEC titles while not on probation before Spurrier, and South Carolina- a grand total of 1 Southern Conference title in the 30's, 1 ACC title in the 60's, and 3 bowl wins in their entire history before Spurrier?
No, not kind of like what Saban, not at all.
Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:08 am to Scoob
No...I'm comparing their circumstances at the time of their arrival to their respective programs.
While Alabama and LSU had enjoyed past success before Saban arrived, their immediate situations were not entirely dissimilar to what Spurrier found when he first arrived at South Carolina and Florida.
While Alabama and LSU had enjoyed past success before Saban arrived, their immediate situations were not entirely dissimilar to what Spurrier found when he first arrived at South Carolina and Florida.
This post was edited on 7/20/14 at 1:09 am
Posted on 7/20/14 at 10:38 am to Tigerman97
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Saban has proven he can when a championship at another school. He could likely win it at several schools so long as he had the resources to higher a high quality staff. So the schools you mentioned certainly would be possible. I do think Saban gets more credit than he deserves, being at Alabama matters and Saban has taken full advantage of that fact.
WTF did you say?
Posted on 7/20/14 at 10:42 am to scrooster
Saban could recruit relatively well at any major conference program on reputation alone at this point. He's a god to this generation of high school recruits, to them an offer from Saban is as good as it gets.
I have little doubt he'd land top 10 classes anywhere but Vandy.
I have little doubt he'd land top 10 classes anywhere but Vandy.
This post was edited on 7/20/14 at 10:42 am
Posted on 7/20/14 at 11:44 am to RollTide1987
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While Alabama and LSU had enjoyed past success before Saban arrived, their immediate situations were not entirely dissimilar to what Spurrier found when he first arrived at South Carolina and Florida.
Really? Are the Vanderbilt and Tennesse jobs similar because Vandy has been better for a couple of years?
You could argue Ole Miss > UF pre Spurrier. USC had a case for worst or second worst program in SEC history pre Spurrier.
Saban is the absolute best coach, probably ever, at maximizing the potential of elite programs.
He's not the best coach ever at every aspect of coaching, and Spurrier is a better program builder than Saban is, at least when you aren't starting from a rabid fanbase, a century of winning tradition, and tons of money to throw at facilities.
This post was edited on 7/20/14 at 11:45 am
Posted on 7/20/14 at 11:45 am to scrooster
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But what about at MSU, KY, Vandy and Ole Miss? Mizzou?
Could he do it at Arkansas?
Would be a lot harder. LSU and Alabama are relatively easy places to recruit.
Posted on 7/20/14 at 11:46 am to BluegrassBelle
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If he's as good as the Bear he could do it at Kentucky.
It ain't the 1950s anymore.
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