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re: Comparing the SEC : School Size, In-State cost & Out-of-State Cost

Posted on 1/28/16 at 9:49 am to
Posted by UKWildcats
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2015
17166 posts
Posted on 1/28/16 at 9:49 am to
Kentucky is free to in state students? I got fricked.
Posted by Cheeky Fellow
Brookhaven-Oglethorpe MARTA Station
Member since Jan 2016
1458 posts
Posted on 1/28/16 at 9:49 am to
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I know a number of people from Memphis that went to UA because they give high performing out-of-state students pretty good scholarship offers.



Yea, they have had great success with

(a) Big City area kids who are high performers who they lure in with scholarships (and win over with visits to campus)

(b) Lottery state kids who are just under the lottery requirements or just miss getting into the state school (Texas, Georgia especially) who still have solid grades/test scores

Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55446 posts
Posted on 1/28/16 at 9:49 am to
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Kentucky is free to in state students? I got fricked.



Shoulda gone to Berea.
Posted by UKWildcats
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2015
17166 posts
Posted on 1/28/16 at 9:56 am to
Berea is a nice little town for sure.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78559 posts
Posted on 1/28/16 at 10:05 am to
Texas A&M - 47,093 -That's a lot of kids that couldn't get into UT.

Florida - $6,381 -Solid value.

LSU - $8,827 -Tops Honors level program makes it so much cheaper.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 1/28/16 at 10:14 am to
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That's a lot of kids that couldn't get into UT.


You are a stupid mofo, you know that? Any kid in the top 10% in their high school can go to either A&M or Texas (or any public college in the state). Of those that can go to either:

quote:

In 2012, TAMU still had more top 10% applications than UT Austin


LINK

(2012 was the last year they have data on)

So go stuff that talking point up your arse.
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 1/28/16 at 10:15 am to
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A&M has had one of the highest enrollments in the country for at least 50 years



Wait a minute. Y'all claim your terrible record against Texas and Arkansas is because y'all were a little ole military college.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 1/28/16 at 10:18 am to
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I've never seen enrollment in a place rise so quickly. I'm not sure there were 20k undergrads when I was there.


I don't think Alabama passed Auburn in enrollment until sometime while I was there. Now, it has 10K more kids than they do.




The problem with Alabama's growth is they are having to offer the moon to out of state students to reach those numbers. With more than 50% of the student population being from out of state, UA is having to accept lower instate students to keep the numbers reasonable. It has become a big concern with the Legislator that the School is becoming an Education Mercenary at the expense of the Alabama Taxpayers (who built and maintain the infrastructure).
This post was edited on 1/28/16 at 10:30 am
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 1/28/16 at 10:18 am to
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A&M has had one of the highest enrollments in the country for at least 50 years


Wait a minute. Y'all claim your terrible record against Texas and Arkansas is because y'all were a little ole military college.


WTF are you talking about?
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 1/28/16 at 10:18 am to
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Wait a minute. Y'all claim your terrible record against Texas and Arkansas is because y'all were a little ole military college.


Three things:

1. He is a Auburn fan. He was just being fair (with a little bit of hyperbole).

2. Our real enrollment boom happened in the mid-70s, so it is more like the last 40 years.

3. Since that time we have been very competitive vs Texas and Arkansas.
Posted by FishFearMe
United States
Member since Jul 2015
7196 posts
Posted on 1/28/16 at 11:59 am to
Except that A&M is an AAU school and the only top 20 research institution between the east coast and west coast.

A&M limiting enrollment via the 10% rule was a bonanza for Arkansas.

Posted by Jacknola
New Orleans
Member since May 2013
4366 posts
Posted on 1/28/16 at 12:22 pm to
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Why do you charge your people so much Tennessee?


One reason Tennessee (makes sign of cross to ward off evil) charges its citizens so much is that the students have to fund the UT Department of Diversity and Inclusion. This department is thought by the UT administration to be a key to providing a quality educational experience. Of course this is the Department that warned against making your "holiday party" a "Christmas party in disguise" among other things.

LINK /

The department also issued a decree to use "gender neutral pronouns" such as "ze" instead of "they," "zir" instead of "them," etc.

LINK /

It is very expensive to run a University department that includes a "Vice Chancellor of the Department of Diversity and Inclusion," not to mention staff by the busload and probably pay a boatload of student informers to make sure no "hurtful things are said" and that every student has his/her/it/them a guaranteed safe space. And it is really expensive to support the annual Collaborators for Change diversity summit, the African American Trailblazer speaking series, and the Women in STEM Symposium (OMG Tennessee!!)

In short, that is one reason Tennessee must charge its citizens so much for a mediocre education.
This post was edited on 1/28/16 at 12:41 pm
Posted by Cheeky Fellow
Brookhaven-Oglethorpe MARTA Station
Member since Jan 2016
1458 posts
Posted on 1/28/16 at 12:23 pm to
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UA is having to accept lower instate students to keep the numbers reasonable


No they aren't, at all. The lower end of admittance in terms of ACT/GPAs is higher now than it was 10 years ago. Not even really close, actually.

That's why people are getting upset, because "average" Alabama kids are having a harder and harder time getting in there, which is the opposite of your argument.
Posted by Bags of Milk
The Sunny Beaches of Canada
Member since Feb 2013
3322 posts
Posted on 1/28/16 at 12:26 pm to
In-state tuition prices aren't actually that bad.

Out of state is

Mine were around $4500-5500 per year for school in Canada. Kind of interesting to see the differences between countries.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140373 posts
Posted on 1/28/16 at 12:28 pm to
Tennessee is poor so they have to charge students more.

What do I win?
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 1/28/16 at 12:28 pm to
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A&M limiting enrollment via the 10% rule was a bonanza for Arkansas


Somewhat but it was mainly Arkansas keeping the out of state tuition low
Posted by Old Hellen Yeller
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9415 posts
Posted on 1/28/16 at 1:01 pm to
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With more than 50% of the student population being from out of state, UA is having to accept lower instate students to keep the numbers reasonable.


You really try hard to spread this lie around, despite the fact that freshman class scores at UA are the highest they've ever been and continue to improve year over year.

quote:

It has become a big concern with the Legislator that the School is becoming an Education Mercenary at the expense of the Alabama Taxpayers (who built and maintain the infrastructure).


The legislature stopped adequately funding higher education a long time ago. They have only themselves to blame.
This post was edited on 1/28/16 at 1:04 pm
Posted by Govt Tide
Member since Nov 2009
9113 posts
Posted on 1/28/16 at 1:06 pm to
It's not even worth arguing over cheeky. Most Auburn fans have a friend's brother's wife's cousin who just knows all about how Alabama has to let in functionally retarded students to keep enrollment growth up. Alabama simply can't compete with Auburn's Ivy League level acceptance standards (a whopping 0.9 higher averge ACT score).
Posted by jb4
Member since Apr 2013
12655 posts
Posted on 1/28/16 at 1:07 pm to
why doesn't alabama have a lottery like Georgia?
Posted by Old Hellen Yeller
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9415 posts
Posted on 1/28/16 at 1:10 pm to
People here believe God will provide for us and pay all our bills as long as we hold to our morals and don't become evil like our neighbor states.
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