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re: Coaches who should be on the hot seat but aren't

Posted on 9/9/16 at 9:57 am to
Posted by Dallashog
Dallas, Tx
Member since Jun 2016
53 posts
Posted on 9/9/16 at 9:57 am to
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I just don't get the logic behind Bielema. I feel like I'm in some alternate universe where everyone is seeing something that my eyes just can't see.


Football is not played on paper. You dont fire a coach after 3 years for his Win/LOSS record alone, you have to look at what you believe he has potential to do. You dont do that by looking at numbers from some website, check the game film! Now I will agree that if W's dont improve over the next 2 seasons and we continue to have slow starts and questionable losses then he needs to go.
Posted by jj06
atlanta..God’s city
Member since Jul 2013
2295 posts
Posted on 9/9/16 at 10:09 am to
You sound russled.

Did Paul Johnson frick your sister/wife?
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 9/9/16 at 10:26 am to
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Kyle has a bigger obsession with Arkansas than I ever had.


He just refuses to judge things fairly. He also lacks any type of context in many situations and discussions. A good example is his point that Arkansas could have been 5-7 last year but he just ignores that we also could have been a 10 win team. Lately though he has made some horrible points about Les and other coaches so I think it is more an error in his conclusion in general.
Posted by Maytheporkbewithyou
Member since Aug 2016
12627 posts
Posted on 9/9/16 at 10:30 am to
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by BHMKyle


Talking about Arkansas. Shocker!
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 9/9/16 at 11:14 am to
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But Arkansas has always been a program that does not settle for a 50% winning percentage. Yet somehow their fans are content. It's like watching a once competitive program decide they are happy with being irrelevant.

You can point out his "trajectory" all you want. But the fact of the matter is he was just 8-5 last year..


I can understand your confusion, but he took a program that was in utter disarray. They were completely demoralized and had the wrong players for Bielema's offense. They are showing improvement, and I think they will continue to show improvement. maybe not this year, but next year going forward I think they will be rocking.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 9/9/16 at 11:16 am to
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Did Paul Johnson frick your sister/wife?


Must have, cause he sure hasn't beaten anybody lately.

Tell us something...what do you see in Paul Johnson? What makes him so good? GT used to contend for the ACC title, but have been left behind by North Carolina and Clemson. They will soon be left behind by Miami. Tech will soon be the 4th best team in the ACC AT BEST.
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
Member since Dec 2007
37538 posts
Posted on 9/9/16 at 11:19 am to
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LOL. Such a clown



this kid is out of his league
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 9/9/16 at 1:43 pm to
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It's almost like seeing improvement every year is a good thing.


Has there been a vast improvement from Year 2 to where you are in Year 4? We all know Bert's first season was horrific. But has there been any tangible improvement since Year 2?

The record improved from 7-6 to 8-5.... but the schedule got much easier.

Texas A&M, Alabama, Ole Miss, LSU, and Miss St. all had very similar S&P rankings in both 2014 and 2015.... they all went from an average of #13.2 in 2014 to #14.6 in 2015. And Arkansas' outcome against all five of those opponents stayed the same: 2-3

But after that, Arkansas had it much easier in 2015 compared to the year before...

*Auburn went from having an S&P ranking of #4 in 2014 down to #35 in 2015... plus that game moved to Fayetteville.
*Missouri went from having an S&P ranking of #23 in 2014 down to #85 in 2015... and again, it switched from being a road game to a home game.
*The rotating Eastern opponent was Georgia (S&P of #7) in 2014, but got easier in 2015 with Tennessee (S&P of #22)

So did Bert really improve the Hogs in his 3rd season or did the schedule just get a ton easier?

You essentially traded in 3 very difficult opponents in 2014 for much easier, winnable games in 2015:

You went from playing #4 Auburn in 2014 to playing #35 Auburn in 2015.
You went from playing #23 Missouri in 2014 to playing #85 Missouri in 2015.
You went from playing #7 Georgia in 2014 to playing #22 Tennessee in 2015.

... and you went from playing 2 of those on the road to playing just 1 on the road.

That was the difference in the season right there. You went from 3 losses to 3 additional wins because of the softening in the schedule.

The only problem is that you regressed in your non-conference play.

Texas Tech was essentially the same strength. Their S&P dropped from #62 in 2014 to #64 in 2015. However, the game moved to Fayetteville. But that game went from a Win to a Loss. Regression.

Arkansas also blew it at home against Toledo, giving them an additional loss. Regression.

So when it all nets out, Arkansas went from 7-6 in 2014 up to 8-5..... but the softening in the schedule should have resulted in far more than just one additional win. Bottom line is there was zero improvement from Year 2 to Year 3 once SOS is factored.

Now we are in Year 4, and Arkansas beat La Tech 21-20 at home in Week 1. This is a team that was not picked by a single major preseason magazine to win its division in CUSA.

Once again, there are no signs of major improvement. You Hog fans are using his horrible 3-9 season to try to show huge improvement. It's as if going 3-9 and 0-8 in SEC play in 2013 has now become an attribute. Thank God Bert did have such a bad first year. Because had he gone 7-6 instead, you wouldn't have this "amazing trajectory" to point towards when trying to justify your coach. Think about that for a moment. The major attribute that is causing Bert to remain popular with Hog fans is the fact he went 3-9 in Year 1. How sad is that!
This post was edited on 9/9/16 at 1:46 pm
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37299 posts
Posted on 9/9/16 at 1:57 pm to
I hope not a soul reads that.
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 9/9/16 at 1:59 pm to
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I hope not a soul reads that.



Because the evidence of no improvement since year 2 is overwhelming.
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37299 posts
Posted on 9/9/16 at 2:02 pm to
no, because you're a dumbass shitbag who thinks they are somehow intellectually superior to others when all you have going for you is evidently strong fingers that love love love love love to type.
This post was edited on 9/9/16 at 2:03 pm
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 9/9/16 at 2:02 pm to
McElwain
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25876 posts
Posted on 9/9/16 at 2:03 pm to
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GT used to contend for the ACC title, but have been left behind by North Carolina and Clemson. They will soon be left behind by Miami. Tech will soon be the 4th best team in the ACC AT BEST.

You forgot FSU
Posted by Hawgeye
tFlagship Brothel
Member since Jun 2009
30978 posts
Posted on 9/9/16 at 2:09 pm to
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BHMKyle

LOL

Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 9/9/16 at 2:10 pm to
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because you're a dumbass shitbag who thinks they are somehow intellectually superior to others


What is your evidence? How do I think that I'm intellectually superior? Sorry you're feeling so insecure in all of this. That is not the goal here.

But the facts are overwhelming.

Bert essentially played the same schedule in 2015 as he did in 2014 with the exception that 3 games got a whole lot easier: Auburn, Missouri, and your rotating Eastern opponent. Those 3 opponents went from an average S&P of #11.3 down to an average S&P of just #47.3 !

WOW! How could a coach NOT show improvement with the scedule softening like that? That should have resulted in 3 extra wins for Bert, but instead he blew it against Texas Tech and Toledo.

It doesn't take an "intellectually superior" person to understand those facts. Bert's "trajectory" and "improvement" just isn't there. It's all smoke and some really big mirrors.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111519 posts
Posted on 9/9/16 at 2:12 pm to
who is Barry Odom?
Posted by Hawgeye
tFlagship Brothel
Member since Jun 2009
30978 posts
Posted on 9/9/16 at 2:13 pm to
How mad are you right now?

I bet you lost at least 2 keys on your keyboard on the last post.
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37299 posts
Posted on 9/9/16 at 2:16 pm to



didn't read
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 9/9/16 at 2:35 pm to
quote:

How mad are you right now?


Mad? I'm just basking in my apparent "intellectual superiority." LOL
Posted by Hawgeye
tFlagship Brothel
Member since Jun 2009
30978 posts
Posted on 9/9/16 at 2:51 pm to
No, you're mad
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