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re: Coach Cal MUST win next years championship?
Posted on 4/9/13 at 2:20 pm to WAOMrebears
Posted on 4/9/13 at 2:20 pm to WAOMrebears
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Whether they could prove he knew about it or not, it was his job TO know about it.
Personally I think no coach is totally clean but their is a vast difference in how the NCAA proceeds and how the national media feeds the public perceptions of programs to protect their investments. ESPN owns the ACC and FOX owns the B1G so it is in their best interest to protect "blessed" programs while deflecting the glare of public exposure away from the public eye.
UCLA (especially under Wooden and the influence of Pappa Sam) should have had many if not all their titles vacated as Walton himself said he made more playing for UCLA than he did in the NBA. When the NCAA finally got around to it they said it was to late to strip them.
UNC had major academic fraud affect their football program recently and it was on page 1. Suddenly it was reported that it also affected the basketball team as well. The NCAA said they would not prosecute as they had no control over academic fraud. Several of the Tar Heel's latest banners should be vacated but it will never happen.
Duke had Corey Maggette admit under oath in federal testimony that he accepted money for an agent yet that banner still stands at Duke. Duke's last banner should also be in question as the issue of the 100,000 in jewelry purchased the season Duke beat Butler that came to light about a year ago. Instead of the media hounding Duke they got a free pass.
If UK had done any of the things the 3 programs above did they would have gotten the death penalty. You will pardon me if the issue is not with the rules, but with the selective teams the NCAA chooses to enforce them on.
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Posted on 4/9/13 at 2:33 pm to Cheese Grits
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You will pardon me if the issue is not with the rules, but with the selective teams the NCAA chooses to enforce them on.
If that was true, Ohio State, Penn State, and SC would not be under sanctions...
Posted on 4/9/13 at 2:57 pm to DaleDenton
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If that was true, Ohio State, Penn State, and SC would not be under sanctions...
Actually, those are the NCAA darlings that you've named. I think UCLA was stripped of a Final Four banner. I want to say 1980 Finals appearance. NCAA had no choice but to slap OSU, PSU and SC. You should remember the Sugar Bowl when their main players were still allowed to play in the game(but was later deemed ineligible to play the following year or missed significant time), and the heat was coming down on them. NCAA would not dare touch Joe Pa, but until the Sandusky situation and the cover-up, they had no choice. USC I don't think had a major violation until Reggie Bush and that agent who decided to talk. Sometimes they are forced to lay the smack down on their darlings. Also, come to think about it, Ohio St. actually walked away without what PSU and SC got.
Posted on 4/9/13 at 3:41 pm to kywildcatfanone
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You should stop posting, and trying to make a point that isn't there. There was no evidence Cal knew that Marcus Camby took any money or had any interaction from an agent, and the same with Derrick Rose's SAT score.
I said there was no evidence, but for God's sake you honestly just think Cal has been the victim of the team that he coaches scandals? That's absurd and you need to seek medical attention if you think it's just a coincidence that both schools he has coached have ended up with vacated wins and he had nothing to do with it. Then the fact that he is pulling in all of these ridiculous classes, and ya'll act as if everyone should believe that he is doing it right this time?
Posted on 4/9/13 at 6:08 pm to WAOMrebears
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That's absurd and you need to seek medical attention if you think it's just a coincidence that both schools he has coached have ended up with vacated wins and he had nothing to do with it
Actually, there is a letter from the NCAA completely obsolving Calipari from any wrong doing in the Camby scandal. It's been posted on message boards in the past. It basically reads that the NCAA is apologizing to him for dragging his name through the mud after investigating and finding him completely innocent of the accusations.
But of course, just like many others, your mind is made up based on your own conclusions. So, I'm sure posting the facts that I did was all a waste of my time.
This post was edited on 4/9/13 at 6:41 pm
Posted on 4/9/13 at 6:31 pm to Tubedog13
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Actually, there is a letter from the NCAA completely obsolving Calipari from any wrong doing in the Camby scandal. It's been posted on message boards in the past. It basically reads that the NCAA is apologizing to him for dragging his name through he mud after investigating and finding him completely innocent of the accusations.
But of course, just like many others, you're mind is made up based on your own conclusions. So, I'm sure posting the facts that I did was all a waste of my time.
Posted on 4/9/13 at 7:21 pm to kywildcatfanone
Christian Laettner
Posted on 4/9/13 at 7:33 pm to WAOMrebears
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Christian Laettner
You really are jealous of excellence, aren't you?Posted on 4/9/13 at 7:39 pm to kywildcatfanone
Not at all. I'm just also a huge Duke fan. And think its hilarious how y'all lost relevancy through out the 2000's and had to start cheating .. Oh well don't get upset when your wins are vacated
.. Oh well don't get upset when your wins are vacatedPosted on 4/9/13 at 7:43 pm to WAOMrebears
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I'm just also a huge Duke fan
That explains your posts and your knowledge of basketball.
Posted on 4/9/13 at 7:49 pm to kywildcatfanone
I would agree with that. And boy am I happy to not have your understanding.
Posted on 4/9/13 at 10:30 pm to WAOMrebears
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This post was edited on 4/9/13 at 10:34 pm
Posted on 4/10/13 at 5:04 am to Bellabama
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It's not brain science.
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 8:59 am to Rittdog
Turns out there is a reason they actually play the games out, the best team on paper doesn't always win, especially in a march madness environment
Posted on 4/10/13 at 10:57 am to DaleDenton
I don't know if the Fab 5 is a great example of mega classes failing in college basketball. Fab 5 did get to the championship game two years in a row. College basketball had much better teams back then.
Cal has gotten outcoached by some of the games greats but he should win the title next year with the roster he's put together. In the 2014 tourney, Kentucky's opponents cumulatively won't have as many NBA players as they will.
Cal has gotten outcoached by some of the games greats but he should win the title next year with the roster he's put together. In the 2014 tourney, Kentucky's opponents cumulatively won't have as many NBA players as they will.
Posted on 4/10/13 at 11:34 am to kywildcatfanone
Coach Cal is a poor man's Billy Donovan
Posted on 4/10/13 at 11:36 am to BoominHogtown
So Gator fan, remind me of Cal's record vs the Munster? Thanks.
This post was edited on 4/10/13 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 4/10/13 at 11:42 am to WildcatMike
which coach does this remind you of?
Builds teams, keeps the program clean, proven winner at a school without a basketball tradition, has more than 1 national championship....
Builds teams, keeps the program clean, proven winner at a school without a basketball tradition, has more than 1 national championship....
Posted on 4/10/13 at 11:43 am to Rittdog
I mean Cal lost with Memphis to Kansas and he had Derrick rose, Joey Dorsey, Chris Douglas Roberts.
Posted on 4/10/13 at 1:56 pm to Cheese Grits
So Cal owns Billy.
It took a miracle 3 by Chalmers to win the game vs Memphis in that game. Memphis was 10 seconds away from winning the Natty. Before you say it would had been vacated, the NCAA allowed an in eligible Kansas player to play.
It took a miracle 3 by Chalmers to win the game vs Memphis in that game. Memphis was 10 seconds away from winning the Natty. Before you say it would had been vacated, the NCAA allowed an in eligible Kansas player to play.
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