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re: Chubb or Fournette? Put your objective lenses on.

Posted on 9/13/15 at 11:25 am to
Posted by chattabama
12essee
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 9/13/15 at 11:25 am to
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So I guess the real question is if LF was on Bama's team who would be starting and vise versa.



The problem with a question like this is that it is completely subjective. I could say that Henry would still be starting if LF were playing at UA, and there is no way that you could prove me wrong. Same thing with Henry at LSU.
Posted by TKLSUMD
Young Harris Georgia
Member since Oct 2011
1845 posts
Posted on 9/13/15 at 11:27 am to
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1A & 1B


This
Posted by OKtiger
Tulsa, OK
Member since Nov 2014
8595 posts
Posted on 9/13/15 at 11:29 am to
LF7 has only played in one game compared to 2 (Henry) and that's how you base this argument off of?

LF7 is better than any RB that Bama has ever had. You're in denial if you think otherwise
Posted by GoldenDawg
Dawg in Exile
Member since Oct 2013
19089 posts
Posted on 9/13/15 at 11:30 am to
Vandy stacked the box to stop the run. Our passing game is total shite right now.

Chubb ran for 189 at just about 10 yards per carry. He is much better than most LSU fans want to admit.

Regardless, both great backs.
Posted by chattabama
12essee
Member since Jun 2012
19315 posts
Posted on 9/13/15 at 11:31 am to
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LF7 has only played in one game compared to 2 (Henry) and that's how you base this argument off of?



Holy shite. I was comparing 1 game versus 1 game against similar competition. Link the post where I included Henry's MTSU stats. Reading comprehension is awesome. You should try it sometime.

quote:

LF7 is better than any RB that Bama has ever had. You're in denial if you think otherwise



Based on...? You are a delusional homer.
Posted by Ryan3232
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Posted on 9/13/15 at 11:32 am to
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The fact that LSU passes so little is going to hurt LF in the draft b/c teams won't know how good he can be in pass protection and many will be scared off by his college usage rate.
This is a stupid statement.
Posted by OKtiger
Tulsa, OK
Member since Nov 2014
8595 posts
Posted on 9/13/15 at 11:33 am to
That's stupid that LSU fans are saying that. Chubb is a tremendous back. I just think LF7 is more talented. Chubb bar none has the better career so far though. I mainly came on here because Bama thinks Henry is better than LF7 and they should be put into a mental hospital
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20376 posts
Posted on 9/13/15 at 11:33 am to
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Again, it would be stunning if either was drafted top 5 and surprising if either goes top 10. It just isn't very likely at all and it matters not how good they are.
Fournette goes top 10 if he stays healthy. Top 5 would be a surprise.

NFL game is changing again; people are moving away from the spread QBs. RG3 is a bust at this point, so is Manziel, and Wilson is good predominantly because of Lynch. Newton is barely average.
So- you are again in need of a pocket passer, and to develop/protect him, you need a good running game.
Posted by Ryan3232
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Posted on 9/13/15 at 11:34 am to
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LF has that video game ability, Chunb is built to be a workhorse
stupid statement #2
Posted by OKtiger
Tulsa, OK
Member since Nov 2014
8595 posts
Posted on 9/13/15 at 11:37 am to
And I told you already how LF7 was more impressive. Did you read my post or did you blindly disregard it to strengthen your case that Henry is better? You clearly haven't watched the games because no one Bama has ever put out has had more talent eye-test wise than LF7. No one has been that big and had that much agility/speed. Not Ingram, not Ricahrdson, not Henry, not Yeldon, not Coffee, not Drake.

You have a clear confirmational bias trying base your argument solely on stats and it's laughable
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 9/13/15 at 11:37 am to
I know, right? Henry only leads LF in about every average statistic. No comparison.
Posted by gatortrav88
Member since Oct 2014
3807 posts
Posted on 9/13/15 at 11:38 am to
i think chubb is a more natural runner but lf has def gotten better in this area imo doesnt look as stiff

their both big powerful backs that should both have very good nfl careers but next ap? lol i dont really see it maybe if he puts together a full season of bad arse games chubb kind of did that last yr for being a true freshmen who had gurley in front of him for a decent amount of time
This post was edited on 9/13/15 at 11:41 am
Posted by OKtiger
Tulsa, OK
Member since Nov 2014
8595 posts
Posted on 9/13/15 at 11:42 am to
The talent is already light years ahead of Henry. He's pretty slow. The statistics will soon follow. LF7 will finish with more yards and more TDs and statistically have a better year than Henry. Bookmark it
Posted by djrunner
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
5318 posts
Posted on 9/13/15 at 11:44 am to
It's all subjective my friend...comparing yards per carry of two backs on two separate teams against different competition is just as subjective. So you think Henry would start in either situation? We were up against 8 to 10 in the box last night and he ran for 157 and he ran the same 3 plays. You think Henry does the same?
This post was edited on 9/13/15 at 11:51 am
Posted by TKLSUMD
Young Harris Georgia
Member since Oct 2011
1845 posts
Posted on 9/13/15 at 11:46 am to
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Chubb ran for 189 at just about 10 yards per carry. He is much better than most LSU fans want to admit.


Most LSU fans realize that both running backs are very good. We are just happy to have one of them on our team.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
28117 posts
Posted on 9/13/15 at 11:49 am to
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Against similar teams this year, which RB had better stats?

RB A: 28 carries, 159 yds, 3 TDs
RB B: 13 carries, 147 yds, 3 TDS


Are you really actually comparing Henry to Fournette?
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 9/13/15 at 11:49 am to
5.7 against MSU just doesn't scream "elite" to me. It screams "good". Sorry.
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9847 posts
Posted on 9/13/15 at 11:51 am to
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It's all subjective my friend...domparing yards per carry of two backs on two seperate teams against different competition is just as subjective. So you think Henry would start in either situation? We were up against 8 to 10 in the box last night and he ran for 157 and he ran the same 3 plays. You think Henry does the same?


And thats the truth.

Henry is a damn good back, but frankly, both Chub and LF7 have better moves and agility.


Though, Henry is hard to stop when he gets headed down stream.

All three have completely different O's and play calls around them.


I'd be higher on Henry if I didn't watch T Rich and the others look like all stars at Bama only to have realized they are blind.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 9/13/15 at 11:54 am to
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Chubb. LSU won't be able to traverse their schedule. QB play isn't even marginally better


come now, we know you have a strong anti-LSU bias but this comment is ridiculous.

quote:

Fournette has better NFL size, but I don't think either of them have great NFL careers.


your problem is that while you think your are thinking, you really are just emoting. perhaps you need to actually look up the definition of thinking. thinking produces nothing unless there is objectivity. bias is always present in the presence of ignorance.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
28117 posts
Posted on 9/13/15 at 11:55 am to
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5.7 against MSU just doesn't scream "elite" to me. It screams "good". Sorry.



Because you didn't watch the game. LSU threw 6 times in the second half.
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