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re: Chavis or Steele as your DC

Posted on 7/14/15 at 8:02 pm to
Posted by Mizzou to my Lou
Miami
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 7/14/15 at 8:02 pm to
Chavis easily
Posted by tigercreole
United States of Russia
Member since Jul 2013
3294 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 8:07 pm to
I don't know, but the sec owes UTx a huge thank you for running a&m into our arms. The Texas recruits are flocking to sec schools. Hope chavis can snag a few for aggie.
This post was edited on 7/14/15 at 8:10 pm
Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
Member since May 2006
29187 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 8:15 pm to
You guys are some really insecure fans. What, maybe a handful of the 39959355 registered LSU fans on here think he actually sucks?

He's going to do a really good job at A&M, but that doesn't mean LSU fans should be crying like a North Korean after Kim Jong Il's death. LSU absolutely made the right call not offering 1.6 mill.

It's funny, I came across this gem from Kaiser earlier....


quote:

Just looking at numbers

DT - A&M
DE - A&M (not close)
LB - LSU (but depth is an issue)
DB - LSU

So, tell me, you corndog nutria etouffee eating swamp feline. Which defense has more talent?




Are you guys actually boasting the fact that Chavis left his previous employer with equivalent talent to your dumpster fire defense? You think it's a mere coincidence LSU has comfy lead in the #1 recruiting rankings, and you guys are losing recruiting battles left and right?

Please spare me last year's defensive rankings. LSU kept the defense off the field all day last year, and when it was on it was eye-gouging stuff, minus the Ole Miss game....and he'd have blown that game too had Freeze not gone full on derp with that no huddle 4th and 1.

LSU's front seven has really suffered because of Chavis' "lb expertise" and his bbq buddy brick. Please forgive us for not being distraught LSU didn't bend over to his ridiculous salary demands.


He'll do a good job at A&M, and I'm a Steele skeptic myself. But with O coaching the line, Raymond the secondary, and Steele the linebackers, I sure as hell like our ability to develop the players we have over anyone. it's going to be difficult for him to frick up.
This post was edited on 7/14/15 at 8:19 pm
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46506 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 8:19 pm to
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The one who didn't let West Virginia put up 70 on his defense

Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37299 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 8:28 pm to
Chavis. The Steele thing may work but it eerily reminds me of a time in the not so distant past when we said 'no problem, John L is familiar with the team. We're good- things will be finnnnnne.'
This post was edited on 7/14/15 at 8:29 pm
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55285 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 8:30 pm to
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John L



We really appreciated that little Sec house warming present
Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
Member since May 2006
29187 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 8:30 pm to
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Chavis. The Steele thing may work but it eerily reminds me of a time in the not so distant past when we said 'no problem, John L is familiar with the team. We're good- things will be finnnnnne.'



Like 99% of the LSU fan base has a "wait and see" approach, because he was far down the wish list. Fans are just excited the talent level is about to go back up and yaw yaw is slaughtering the recruiting trail.

Right now I'd definitely choose Chavis if it meant brick wasn't in the picture. Ideally I would choose neither anyways
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 8:40 pm to
Steele and Orgeron> chavis and haley.

Chavis>steele.
Posted by vincejr
Baton Rouge,La
Member since Oct 2006
953 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 8:40 pm to
How many national title teams has john chavis been a part of in 35 years of coaching? Anyone? I'll answer that 1. Steele and Orgeron combined 10 titles teams. So let's not make Chief out the be a savior. If you aggies fans would really look at the facts you win with players and right now you guys are the laughing stock in you own state. Lsu, Houston, Texas, and tcu have commits from top 25 players in Texas. The aggies have zero. He is an outstanding dc but will he be there to ever coach any talent because recruiting the way you guys are now will get Sumlin fired.
Posted by Quicksilver
Poker Room
Member since Jan 2013
10745 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 8:43 pm to
Ed Orgeron is a recruiter. That's it. He is not a schemer. Recruiting DL has never been a problem for LSU
Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
85797 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 8:45 pm to
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Ed Orgeron is a recruiter. That's it. He is not a schemer. Recruiting DL has never been a problem for LSU



No it hasn't, but continually finishing 2nd for the number 1 DL recruit in the country has been getting rather stale.

Thanks Haley. Enjoy our intern, Texas
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
22759 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 8:47 pm to
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Ed Orgeron is a recruiter. That's it. He is not a schemer. Recruiting DL has never been a problem for LSU


Don't sell the man short...........he is a recruiter and quite possibly the best defensive line technician teacher in the college game.......ask all the pros.
Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
Member since May 2006
29187 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 8:49 pm to
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Ed Orgeron is a recruiter. That's it



Also is pretty spectacular at developing DL.


quote:

He is not a schemer.



Coaches do actually refine and improve as time goes on. He was over his head during his time at Ole Miss, but he's learned from a lot of the all-time greats. It's not outrageous to suggest he and even Raymond will contribute greatly to the gameplan.


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Recruiting DL has never been a problem for LSU



The few Brick has gotten over the last five years didn't even develop well. Danielle Hunter's hs coach coached von Miller and Hunter in high school, and he said Hunter was farther along and more athletic. Hunter had 4.5 career sacks with the help of brick


eta: not sure if you're trolling, but I bit
This post was edited on 7/14/15 at 8:52 pm
Posted by vincejr
Baton Rouge,La
Member since Oct 2006
953 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 8:50 pm to
We have had zero pass rush for 2 years and chavis played a guy a middle linebacker last year for most of the season that couldn't play at Tulane over a guy that is up for every linebacker award and is going to be 1st round pick next spring barring injury.
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
24928 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 8:55 pm to
Who is Steele?
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 8:58 pm to
Chavis, because he's proven. He's guaranteed to throw a game away once a season.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72183 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 9:01 pm to
Alabama demoted Steele after 2007, but I still might take him for the recruiting alone. He's also a great LB coach.

Plus Third and Chavis in those late game collapses have to suck.
Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
Member since May 2006
29187 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 9:04 pm to
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Alabama demoted Steele after 2007, but I still might take him for the recruiting alone. He's also a great LB coach.

Plus Third and Chavis in those late game collapses have to suck.




Raymond-secondary
Ed O-DL
Steele-linebackers

Unless steele calls game like I did on NCAA 13, I like LSU's chances.
Posted by Will2nd
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2009
3937 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 9:13 pm to
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The one who didn't let West Virginia put up 70 on his defense


He didn't have the players. The DBs there couldn't make open field tackles. Also, that same WVU team put up 60 less yards on Chavis' defense earlier that year. The players he had prevented them from scoring as much. To that end, we mostly taking a wait and see approach. Not many, if any, are saying we are going to shut things down. Be we also don't expect to fall off the map.
This post was edited on 7/14/15 at 9:26 pm
Posted by SafetySam
Gettysburg, PA
Member since Oct 2013
7184 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 9:13 pm to
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crying like a North Korean after Kim Jong Il's death


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