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re: Chances that College Gameday is in Tuscaloosa next week?

Posted on 10/15/12 at 4:24 pm to
Posted by pivey14
In Your Head
Member since Mar 2012
15445 posts
Posted on 10/15/12 at 4:24 pm to
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Ohio St./Penn St.


Penn St. will never be on Gameday again until the sanctions are up.
Posted by TigerPox
Member since Oct 2010
33333 posts
Posted on 10/15/12 at 4:26 pm to
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I don't know, but I'm sure you do. When?
Pretty sure I'm right with 1962. I was just eyeballing through the All-Time Results.

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1962 — Won 10, Lost 0
National Champions
SEC Champions
OM Opp
Sept. 22 †Memphis State, Memphis 21 7
Sept. 29 †Kentucky, Jackson 14 0
Oct. 6 Houston, Jackson (HC) 40 7
Oct. 20 †Tulane, Jackson 21 0
Oct. 27 Vanderbilt, Memphis 35 0
Nov. 3 †LSU, Baton Rouge 15 7
Nov. 10 Chattanooga, Oxford 52 7
Nov. 17 Tennessee, Knoxville 19 6
Dec. 1 Mississippi State, Oxford 13 6
SUGAR BOWL, New Orleans
1-1-63 ‡Arkansas 17 13

TOTAL POINTS 230 40
COACH: John H. Vaught
CO-CAPTAINS: Glynn Griffing, QB; Louis Guy, WB
†Night Game ‡TV Game


Rebels Football History

You may could make an argument for 1963 given that the first game was a tie.
Posted by engie
Member since Jan 2012
8953 posts
Posted on 10/15/12 at 4:26 pm to
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I'm not saying there's ZERO chance, because anything can happen. But suggesting that State should be penciled in as a SECW contender yearly while Mullen is there is ridiculous. Prove it by beating a good team this year and next and I'll admit State has "arrived".


Who suggested this? You are the only one. So obviously it is on your mind if you are trying this hard to discount it when no one else said it. We beat a Tennessee team that will finish in the top 35, probably top 30, but they "suck" now simply because we dominated them to a much greater extent than the scoreboard shows.

But by "beat some good teams" what you really mean is, "be the #1 team in the country" because the teams that you are asking us to beat carry those exact implications.

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competing with LSU, BAMA, UF and UGA


LSU is the only team left in the SEC with any discernible win streak against us. We already beat two of those teams under Mullen. Alabama has lost a total of 4 games in Mullen's tenure, so sorry for not expecting to step up and dominate them.
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
Member since Dec 2007
37538 posts
Posted on 10/15/12 at 4:31 pm to
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Penn St. will never be on Gameday again until the sanctions are up.


shite, they talk about Penn St. all the time and their coach gets all sorts of face time.

The sentencing has come down, and the makings of a story are there. dirty OSU vs. dirty PSU and the phoenixes rise from the ashes. Any chance Gameday gets to be around Urban Meyer they'll take it.
Posted by skirpnasty
Atlantis
Member since Aug 2012
10781 posts
Posted on 10/15/12 at 4:31 pm to
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Hell, I agree with this 100%. Much like this year for us. Although, I believe your program was in MUCH better shape than ours was when Freeze took over.


I don't agree. Freeze started with some good players, Brassell, CJ, Moncreif just to name a few. Mullen started with nobody, Anthony Dixon was the only player on that team worth noting. Derrek Sherrod wasn't a name until he started working under Hevesy.
Posted by engie
Member since Jan 2012
8953 posts
Posted on 10/15/12 at 4:34 pm to
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0% chance


UF/UGA - Excellent chance UF loses this week
ND/OU - maybe
Texas Tech/Kstate - Is this a joke? Also excellent chance both lose this week
Ohio St./Penn St. - bad troll is bad. State Penn is also going to lose this week.

All before MSU at Bama.


The only one of these games that takes priority over MSU/Bama at this point is ND/OU, and that is arguable...
Posted by OPR
NOLA
Member since Sep 2009
2606 posts
Posted on 10/15/12 at 4:38 pm to
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Who suggested this?


Every State poster who starts threads like this one. Beating their chests about "battling it out for the West".

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but they "suck" now simply because we dominated them to a much greater extent than the scoreboard shows.


No, it's because you have already played down to your opponents twice this year and managed to come away with W's.

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But by "beat some good teams" what you really mean is, "be the #1 team in the country" because the teams that you are asking us to beat carry those exact implications.


So then quit fricking around and do it already.

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LSU is the only team left in the SEC with any discernible win streak against us.


Stop using history to try to support current and future speculation. It doesn't work.

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We already beat two of those teams under Mullen.


Again, what you did yesterday has no bearing on this years State expectations or success. We'll leave out the fact that you caught UF and UGA on terrible, shitty runs. Credit Mullen for winning games he should win, not for being some kind of world beater.

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Alabama has lost a total of 4 games in Mullen's tenure, so sorry for not expecting to step up and dominate them.


Don't tell me bro, tell your State boys on this here board.

Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
32407 posts
Posted on 10/15/12 at 4:40 pm to
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The only one of these games that takes priority over MSU/Bama at this point is ND/OU, and that is arguable...



Bama is still Bama, But you are State it's not like it's a showdown or anything. The outcome is 99.9%
Posted by OPR
NOLA
Member since Sep 2009
2606 posts
Posted on 10/15/12 at 4:40 pm to
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I don't agree. Freeze started with some good players, Brassell, CJ, Moncreif just to name a few. Mullen started with nobody, Anthony Dixon was the only player on that team worth noting. Derrek Sherrod wasn't a name until he started working under Hevesy.



I'm not just talking about talent (although, that's debatable as well). I'm talking about overall status of the program. Nutt did absolutely NOTHING in his last 2 years. He sat back and counted on two Cotton Bowls and 9 win season to recruit, motivate, coach and develop his 10 and 11 teams. He ran the entire program into the ground.

Croom was not the best, I agree. But he wasn't as shitty at Nutt.
Posted by OPR
NOLA
Member since Sep 2009
2606 posts
Posted on 10/15/12 at 4:44 pm to
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The outcome is 99.9%



This is exactly my point in this thread. State posters are doing their best '10 and '11 Arky fan impression right now. The problem is that they aren't winning as much as Arky was at that time.

Beat more teams than the ones you're SUPPOSED to beat and do that for 2 years in a row and no one will argue that State has taken the proverbial next step. It's simply too early to tell right now. No matter how much the Grinders want it.
Posted by skirpnasty
Atlantis
Member since Aug 2012
10781 posts
Posted on 10/15/12 at 4:57 pm to
Game was announced for a 7:30 kick off televised on ESPN. Sounding good for game day.
Posted by engie
Member since Jan 2012
8953 posts
Posted on 10/15/12 at 4:57 pm to
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Every State poster who starts threads like this one. Beating their chests about "battling it out for the West".


How does starting this thread say that? This is a COMPLETELY logical thread to start. We are one of two or three legitimate options for Gameday in two weeks. By the time of that game, State will have no worse than the 3rd-longest win streak in all of FBS, while Alabama has the longest, for a combined total of 20 games straight. Claiming otherwise is just butt hurt...

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No, it's because you have already played down to your opponents twice this year and managed to come away with W's.


Maybe. We've also trailed for the 3rd fewest minutes of any team in all of college football. The other 2? Alabama and Oregon.

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So then quit fricking around and do it already.


Really? So we should expect to be #1? That is what you are saying. And you wonder why OM fans are the most illogical in the country. State is exactly where we want to be. Losing on the road in Baton Rouge and Tuscaloosa will not change that.

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Again, what you did yesterday has no bearing on this years State expectations or success. We'll leave out the fact that you caught UF and UGA on terrible, shitty runs. Credit Mullen for winning games he should win, not for being some kind of world beater.


Sure it has bearing. We shut down one of the best passing teams in the country...and would have blown them out had it not been for a single all-world playmaker. So, 2 bowl teams were on "terrible, shitty runs?" Florida won 8 that year and finished the season ranked in the top 25.

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Don't tell me bro, tell your State boys on this here board.


Link to a single State fan seriously saying this anywhere on the board? Can you? No. Only people saying it with conviction are LSU trolls...
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68500 posts
Posted on 10/15/12 at 5:00 pm to
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that is arguable...


Not really. ESPN has a hard on for Notre Dame and OU. Bama-MSU isn't as important nationally as ND-OU will be.
Posted by engie
Member since Jan 2012
8953 posts
Posted on 10/15/12 at 5:03 pm to
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This is exactly my point in this thread. State posters are doing their best '10 and '11 Arky fan impression right now. The problem is that they aren't winning as much as Arky was at that time.


Link to who else we could have POSSIBLY beaten? Oh yeah, there isn't anybody.

Those two Arky teams you speak of finished with higher rankings than any team in the state of Mississippi in over 40 years...played in a Sugar Bowl. I no doubt appreciate this comparison!

Would be thrilled to surpass the 1999 Mississippi State University Bulldogs as the best team this state has seen in 40+ years...
Posted by bigeztiger
Columbus Ohio
Member since Jul 2011
5092 posts
Posted on 10/15/12 at 5:05 pm to
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they'll be at both.


GAMEDAY at a bama game two weeks in a row??? Not ESPN huh?
Posted by Broken Coyote
Seated. Facing forward
Member since Dec 2010
3050 posts
Posted on 10/15/12 at 5:06 pm to
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Bama-MSU isn't as important nationally as ND-OU will be.


/nod Truth.

Now if OU and ND go out and shat the bed this week, it could change...maybe, though I have no idea who they play or even if they play this week.
Posted by skirpnasty
Atlantis
Member since Aug 2012
10781 posts
Posted on 10/15/12 at 5:08 pm to
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Not really. ESPN has a hard on for Notre Dame and OU. Bama-MSU isn't as important nationally as ND-OU will be.


Two weeks from now is Bama/state or OU/ND. Three weeks from now is Bama/LSU or Oregon/USC. I think it's a toss up but I find Bama state and then Oregon USC more likely than the alternative. Ultimately some of the decision could hinge on LSU/aTm this weekend, but I doubt it. The probability that state and Bama are still undefeated after this weekend is higher than that of ND and OU winning this weekend.
Posted by OPR
NOLA
Member since Sep 2009
2606 posts
Posted on 10/15/12 at 5:08 pm to
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engie


sigh, I tire of your inanity.

Fine bro, keep on keepin on. Grind for the grinders. Rock out with your cock out or whatever.

Just know that all the bravado and chest pounding by Staters means nothing until you've demonstrated an ability to beat the top SEC teams year in and year out. Until then, you're just Ole Miss before the USCe game in 2009. Enjoy.
Posted by engie
Member since Jan 2012
8953 posts
Posted on 10/15/12 at 5:10 pm to
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ND-OU will be.


I agree with you on this, which is why I made the initial post back on page 1. Giving current odds, I'd say 65% OU/ND and even odds for Fla/Ga and State/Bama.

Yet that only exists because Stanford got screwed in OT! ND is smoke and mirrors, and they will be exposed by OU, if not by BYU this weekend. Fully expect that to be a very, very low scoring game...
This post was edited on 10/15/12 at 5:12 pm
Posted by engie
Member since Jan 2012
8953 posts
Posted on 10/15/12 at 5:30 pm to
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sigh, I tire of your inanity.


Giving up is your best option. Kudos for realizing it.

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Just know that all the bravado and chest pounding by Staters means nothing until you've demonstrated an ability to beat the top SEC teams year in and year out


The only teams that have demonstrated this ability are Alabama, LSU, and Florida. I am not sorry that we aren't currently on their level. Nor will we ever be. Harsh reality.

You Ole Miss people just expect to go from the bottom to the top. Overnight. You see yourselves on an elite level, even though hardly anyone on this website was alive to see any of your "glory years". You think you can just snap your fingers and compete for championships without having to take the lumps of climbing the ladder. That is the only real lunacy in this thread.

Fact is, we are what we are. And we are proud of it. We are a top 20 team, with recruiting that is now getting better and better yearly, a $75 mil stadium expansion underway, a $25 mil football facility almost finished, and 20 straight home sellouts. We have a coach that is now 27-17(12-15). The ball is rolling at MSU. We want to sustain where we are currently at. We don't have to win national titles right now to be happy with our program. PS: It only took Holtz/Spurrier ELEVEN years of consistent winning to get SC to the next level(in the weaker SEC east). Mullen is in year 4. He needs 3 more wins to complete a better three year run than any OM run since Archie Manning was QB. Let that sink in. Our "mediocrity" is better than anything you've ever seen from your team. And it is eating you up inside.

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Until then, you're just Ole Miss before the USCe game in 2009.

Actually, that is what we were before we beat Auburn...or arguably Tennessee. Favorable schedule with the chance to step up and build some hype in the first half of the season. We've done it. You shat the bed against a 6 win USCe team that got blown out by Connecticut in the Papa Johns bowl.
This post was edited on 10/15/12 at 5:33 pm
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