Started By
Message
re: CFN: The SEC's 6-1-1 Disaster
Posted on 6/4/12 at 11:05 am to JPLSU1981
Posted on 6/4/12 at 11:05 am to JPLSU1981
quote:
Welcome to the 6-1-1 schedule, SEC fans – as brutal a compromise as the league could've come up with, and it's all to preserve two games for four schools: Alabama vs. Tennessee and UGA vs. Auburn.
but but but I thought LSU fans were the only ones that think this format is stupid
0
Posted on 6/4/12 at 11:05 am to GoBigOrange86
quote:
You just like the easy UT win, I get that...
quote:
No team in the country has defeated Alabama more than Tennessee has.
Posted on 6/4/12 at 11:06 am to RT1941
quote:
And while raising the level of play for FL/UGA/USC it would dilute the level of play for LSU, would it not?
Hoping you wouldn't notice that.
Seriously, over a lot of years it won't matter. Programs' strengths wax and wane. Right now it's LSU and 'Bama (with a little Arky pretentiousness thrown in for spice), but over the next 20 years, that power will shift all over the place (well, except maybe for Vandy and Kentucky).
Posted on 6/4/12 at 11:09 am to nycajun
quote:
eriously, over a lot of years it won't matter. Programs' strengths wax and wane
exactly.
and if Bama fans care about the Tennessee game as much as they say they do, why would they care what the schedule does for LSU?
Posted on 6/4/12 at 11:11 am to JOHNN
quote:
The older generation of Bama fans are of the opinion that the season wouldnt be complete if AL/Tenn didnt play because they consider TN to be their main rival. The younger generation of bama fans could care less if they play TN every year because they look at Aub as their main rival.
Thanks for clearing that up. Where would we be without the LSU fanbase's wealth of knowledge on rivalries?
Posted on 6/4/12 at 11:12 am to nycajun
quote:
And while raising the level of play for FL/UGA/USC it would dilute the level of play for LSU, would it not?
quote:
Hoping you wouldn't notice that.
Seriously, over a lot of years it won't matter. Programs' strengths wax and wane. Right now it's LSU and 'Bama (with a little Arky pretentiousness thrown in for spice), but over the next 20 years, that power will shift all over the place (well, except maybe for Vandy and Kentucky).
When the power shift includes a team other than the Big6 let me know. It damn sure hasn't happened in the last 20 yrs, and I don't see it will happening in the next 20 yrs.
Posted on 6/4/12 at 11:15 am to nycajun
Here are my thoughts on this issue as an LSU fan:
-I don't want to lose the Florida game every year. It's a great game, and it's been really helpful to LSU in the past.
-Everyone keeps bringing up that all these other conferences have canceled long term rivalry games, but doesn't anyone think that at least part of what makes the SEC great is that we've been able to preserve some of them?
-I don't like the idea of barely ever playing the other side of the conference, would 9 conference games be that bad? Yes the league is the toughest every year, but elite teams still emerge, and would still do after one extra conference game. (In fairness to the East teams, it could be worked out in such a way that the years they play 5 SEC roadies, they play their ACC rival at home.)
-Blah Blah, Bama runs the conference, butthurt, $180k, Mark Richt, Fulmer Cup, Little Debbies, ESPN hates LSU
-I don't want to lose the Florida game every year. It's a great game, and it's been really helpful to LSU in the past.
-Everyone keeps bringing up that all these other conferences have canceled long term rivalry games, but doesn't anyone think that at least part of what makes the SEC great is that we've been able to preserve some of them?
-I don't like the idea of barely ever playing the other side of the conference, would 9 conference games be that bad? Yes the league is the toughest every year, but elite teams still emerge, and would still do after one extra conference game. (In fairness to the East teams, it could be worked out in such a way that the years they play 5 SEC roadies, they play their ACC rival at home.)
-Blah Blah, Bama runs the conference, butthurt, $180k, Mark Richt, Fulmer Cup, Little Debbies, ESPN hates LSU
Posted on 6/4/12 at 11:18 am to ProjectP2294
We don't have these problems in the Big 12. 9 game conference schedule because everybody plays everybody, leaving no doubts who is champion.
Posted on 6/4/12 at 11:20 am to ProjectP2294
Just go to the 6-1-2 model and get rid of an ooc game.
Posted on 6/4/12 at 11:20 am to Big12fan
Posted on 6/4/12 at 11:22 am to JPLSU1981
quote:
The dedicated cross-divisional game structure is also unbalanced. How can one argue otherwise, other than try to divert attention from the facts?
Lots of people in this thread doing just that
Posted on 6/4/12 at 11:24 am to CapstoneGrad06
quote:
Thanks for clearing that up. Where would we be without the LSU fanbase's wealth of knowledge on rivalries?
The point of the comment was in response to a bama fan that said an lsu fan wouldnt know about rivalries and thats why bama is so adomant about preserving the "rivalry" with tenn. A small percentage of fans consider it a rivalry and others dont.
So once again they are catering to a very small segment of the conference instead of the betterment of everyone involved.
Posted on 6/4/12 at 11:24 am to Draconian Sanctions
quote:
Lots of people in this thread doing just that
i dont know if anyone actually read the article
again, it was not written by an LSU fan or anyone from the SEC
Posted on 6/4/12 at 11:25 am to G4ID
quote:
Just go to the 6-1-2 model and get rid of an ooc game.
This.. everybody get rid of a N.Texas or a Tennessee Tech and play another conference game..
Posted on 6/4/12 at 11:29 am to JOHNN
[quote]The point of the comment was in response to a bama fan that said an lsu fan wouldnt know about rivalries and thats why bama is so adomant about preserving the "rivalry" with tenn. A small percentage of fans consider it a rivalry and others dont.
So once again they are catering to a very small segment of the conference instead of the betterment of everyone involved.[/quote]
The conference voted though, and the vote was 11-3. So, a very large segment actually voted in support of the current structure.
So once again they are catering to a very small segment of the conference instead of the betterment of everyone involved.[/quote]
The conference voted though, and the vote was 11-3. So, a very large segment actually voted in support of the current structure.
This post was edited on 6/4/12 at 11:31 am
Posted on 6/4/12 at 11:41 am to JPLSU1981
quote:
Welcome to the 6-1-1 schedule, SEC fans – as brutal a compromise as the league could've come up with, and it's all to preserve two games for four schools: Alabama vs. Tennessee and UGA vs. Auburn.
Alright, I'm going to play devil's advocate here.
Why is it the fault of those four schools?
Were any of those four schools actively lobbying Slive to expand to 14 teams?
Because if the SEC stayed at 12, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
And it's never been any secret that those four schools will not negotiate their precious rivalries.
It sucks to lose the second rotating cross division game. But if there's anyone to blame, shouldn't it be Slive?
Also, Alleva has already poobahed the idea of a 9th conference game. I believe most other ADs are also opposed to adding another conference game (mostly for financial reasons) but if Alleva believes the rotation is so almighty important then why isn't he open to a 9th game?
Posted on 6/4/12 at 11:42 am to getback
quote:I'm okay with this. It only essentially serves as a bye week for most teams anyway. They could drag the season out a little longer and give teams an extra bye. Yeah I said it.
This.. everybody get rid of a N.Texas or a Tennessee Tech and play another conference game..
Posted on 6/4/12 at 11:48 am to ohiovol
quote:
Yeah, Tennessee hates competition.
and when they get it, they wear wires and go behind people's backs to the NCAA to make things easier, amiright?
Posted on 6/4/12 at 11:48 am to hwnd
quote:
I'm okay with this. It only essentially serves as a bye week for most teams anyway. They could drag the season out a little longer and give teams an extra bye. Yeah I said it.
It is in the best interest of the student-athletes that the games not interfere with their exams. We are happy with a 12 game regular season
/presidents
Here is more money to go 13 games.
/TVexecutives
Expanding the regular season by one game allows us to showcase our universities and gives our student-athletes the exposure they deserve
/presidents
Posted on 6/4/12 at 11:59 am to BrerTiger
quote:
Also, Alleva has already poobahed the idea of a 9th conference game. I believe most other ADs are also opposed to adding another conference game (mostly for financial reasons) but if Alleva believes the rotation is so almighty important then why isn't he open to a 9th game?
Because of higher education budget cuts, the AD is now tasked with "donating" more money back to the school. Alleva has already managed a schedule with only 6 home games, it doesn't work very well. In odd years, LSU would be locked into 5 away games. Seven home games, while not as untenable as 6, still puts an awful lot of strain when you have to build softball stadiums and pay $1 million to women's basketball coaches. Right now, Alleva is locked in to 8 SEC games, only four away, and he can do what he pleases with the rest.
Page 7 of 18
Back to top
Follow SECRant for SEC Football News