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Posted on 6/4/12 at 1:04 pm to attheua
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Bama/UT/AU/UGA traditions will always win out. Those games survived expansion in 1992 and they survived 2012. If LSU doesn't like it they can leave and play Vandy 12 times a year, I don't give a shite.
:and that's a typical response:
So why should we give a frick about your rival game a-hole?
Posted on 6/4/12 at 1:07 pm to JPLSU1981
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CFN: The SEC's 6-1-1 Disaster
Posted on 6/4/12 at 1:10 pm to lsusteve1
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No such thing as "not" negotiable.......what would/could they do if it's changed? Threaten to leave?
The SEC was formed when 13 teams seceded from the Southern Conference. Secession isn't exactly a bad word in the South.
If the league tried to force AU/UA/UGA/UT to drop their rivalry games, I could see those four schools threatening to join the ACC or form a new conference with Florida, USCe and the lower half of the ACC (GT, Clemson, Miami and FSU for starters).
Might sound crazy and extemely improbable, but it's about equally crazy and improbable that the SEC will have any luck in forcing those four schools to abandon their annual rivalry games.
Posted on 6/4/12 at 1:12 pm to lsusteve1
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So why should we give a frick about your rival game a-hole?
Why should they give a shite about our night games in Tiger Stadium?
Surely the vast majority of LSU fans would agree that should be a non negotiable for LSU.
This post was edited on 6/4/12 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 6/4/12 at 1:12 pm to BrerTiger
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The SEC was formed when 13 teams seceded from the Southern Conference. Secession isn't exactly a bad word in the South. If the league tried to force AU/UA/UGA/UT to drop their rivalry games, I could see those four schools threatening to join the ACC or form a new conference with Florida, USCe and the lower half of the ACC (GT, Clemson, Miami and FSU for starters). Might sound crazy and extemely improbable, but it's about equally crazy and improbable that the SEC will have any luck in forcing those four schools to abandon their annual rivalry games.
Highly unlikely........it's like threats from the Taliban or Iraq and Sadaam.
Posted on 6/4/12 at 1:14 pm to BrerTiger
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Why should they give a shite about our night games in Tiger Stadium? Surely the vast majority of LSU fans would agree that should be a non negotiable for LSU.
Ummmm....LSU had more than it's share of day games in TS the last few years. And just how does that affect other SEC teams other than having to play in front of a drunker crowd??
Comparing this and strong-arming the SEC are not the same.....
Posted on 6/4/12 at 1:20 pm to TeLeFaWx
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2011 - 6 home games.
2010 - 7 home games.
2009 - 7 home games.
2008 - 8 home games.
2007 - 7 home games.
2006 - 8 home games.
2005 - 6 home games.
2004 - 7 home games.
2003 - 7 home games.
2002 - 7 home games.
7 home games is obviously not untenable by any means to LSU. Over the last 10 years they have averaged exactly 7 home games per year, with just as many 6 home game schedules as 8 home schedules.
You're analysis is incorrect because you are failing to account for the fact that until April of 2005, the NCAA did not allow 12 game schedules except on the rare occasion that the calendar lined up a very specific way. You also missed the part about the budget crisis which has created a different fiscal animal than the AD was previously faced with. Finally, I said it isn't untenable; it just puts strain on the finances.
Posted on 6/4/12 at 1:21 pm to BrerTiger
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Why should they give a shite about our night games in Tiger Stadium?
Surely the vast majority of LSU fans would agree that should be a non negotiable for LSU
yes, but we were forced to give that up for the SEC/CBS TV deal..see how compromise works?
Posted on 6/4/12 at 1:22 pm to lsusteve1
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Ummmm....LSU had more than it's share of day games in TS the last few years.
An oversight to be sure.
When the last TV contract was negotiated, I don't think LSU ever imagined a season with no SEC night games in Tiger Stadium.
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Comparing this and strong-arming the SEC are not the same.....
You're missing the point.
Alleva SHOULD be strong arming the league and demanding at least one SEC night game every year as part of the TV contract negotiations.
He should be every bit as passionate about that as UA/AU/UGA/UT are about preserving their rivalry games.
Posted on 6/4/12 at 1:26 pm to Eighteen
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yes, but we were forced to give that up for the SEC/CBS TV deal..see how compromise works?
Do we know for a fact that LSU even discussed this possibility when the CBS contract was signed in August 2008?
How do we know it wasn't just an oversight by LSU?
Did LSU's AD at the time really consider that possibility and try to get something put in the CBS deal when it was inked in August 2008?
Posted on 6/4/12 at 1:29 pm to BrerTiger
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Do we know for a fact that LSU even discussed this possibility when the CBS contract was signed in August 2008?
How do we know it wasn't just an oversight by LSU?
I know this is the drum you are beating in all of these threads. The problem is LSU is one team, unless it buys off a bunch of teams through weak permanent opponents or letting them out of playing a certain permanent opponent, they will be subject to the same cram-down that everyone else is. We have to build a coalition or night games will never be a priority of any TV deal.
Posted on 6/4/12 at 1:29 pm to BrerTiger
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You're missing the point. Alleva SHOULD be strong arming the league and demanding at least one SEC night game every year as part of the TV contract negotiations. He should be every bit as passionate about that as UA/AU/UGA/UT are about preserving their rivalry games.
Because LSU playing one 11:00am game a year (per TV agreements) is part of being fair and doing what's best for the SEC.
Why try and strong-arm the league and be defiant?
Posted on 6/4/12 at 1:32 pm to JPLSU1981
I think the 6-1-1 format could work to our advantage. As hinted in the article, it could become a recruiting issue. Since cross-divisional opponents (other than the permanent one) are now basically in a different conference, schools can't promise recruits they'll be playing in those venues. So now, LSU is the only school in the West that can tell recruits they'll get to play in the Swamp. Bama can promise them Neyland, Auburn between the hedges, and others whoever they play, but none of those places measures up to The Swamp, IMO. Could be a good selling point for us.
Also, we'll be the only SEC West team consistently getting exposure in both Florida and Texas. That has to help.
Also, we'll be the only SEC West team consistently getting exposure in both Florida and Texas. That has to help.
Posted on 6/4/12 at 1:33 pm to lsusteve1
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Because LSU playing one 11:00am game a year (per TV agreements) is part of being fair and doing what's best for the SEC.
Why try and strong-arm the league and be defiant?
Who the hell is strong arming the "league"? The "league" voted 11-3.
Posted on 6/4/12 at 1:36 pm to Nuts4LSU
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I think the 6-1-1 format could work to our advantage. As hinted in the article, it could become a recruiting issue. Since cross-divisional opponents (other than the permanent one) are now basically in a different conference, schools can't promise recruits they'll be playing in those venues. So now, LSU is the only school in the West that can tell recruits they'll get to play in the Swamp. Bama can promise them Neyland, Auburn between the hedges, and others whoever they play, but none of those places measures up to The Swamp, IMO. Could be a good selling point for us.
Also, we'll be the only SEC West team consistently getting exposure in both Florida and Texas. That has to help.
^^This is a man that's making fricking lemonade when he's given lemons.
Posted on 6/4/12 at 1:36 pm to RT1941
Anyone have anymore information on the LSU-Arky series? One more thing adding A&M and Mizzou screwed up.
Posted on 6/4/12 at 1:38 pm to therick711
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I know this is the drum you are beating in all of these threads. The problem is LSU is one team, unless it buys off a bunch of teams through weak permanent opponents or letting them out of playing a certain permanent opponent, they will be subject to the same cram-down that everyone else is. We have to build a coalition or night games will never be a priority of any TV deal.
Yeah, but do we know if Alleva even tried (before last year)?
He's bitching up a blue streak now about the loss of a rotating cross divisional game but what is he doing to advocate LSU's position on night games? All he's done is put out a press release saying "Well, that's the TV contract we have"
I hear what you're saying about building a coalition but just saying that maybe the right response to UA/AU/UGA/UT's non negotiable is to throw this back in their face as a non negotiable of our own. We'll support them if they support us. Is Alleva even trying?
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I know this is the drum you are beating in all of these threads.
Sorry for not marching to whatever beat Miles and Alleva tell me to.
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Good op/ed from Reveille on this topic:
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But the letter came off almost as a way of Alleva telling fans he was tired of their emails and just wanted them to stop.
What he should have done was given the Tiger faithful some hope for the future of LSU night games.
Alleva should have told the fans he and the rest of the athletic department was working on a plan to propose to CBS, the SEC or any of the other powers that be to preserve Tiger Stadium’s hallowed night-game tradition.
LINK
At least UA/AU/UGA/UT can say their AD fights for their traditions. WTF is Alleva doing? His history with Duke lacrosse doesn't exactly inspire me in him as a leader.
DiNardo went to bat for LSU on the white jerseys. Alleva needs to fight day and night on this.
This post was edited on 6/4/12 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 6/4/12 at 1:39 pm to RT1941
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Who the hell is strong arming the "league"? The "league" voted 11-3.
Different issue.
We're talking about night games in Tiger Stadium.
Posted on 6/4/12 at 1:40 pm to RT1941
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Who the hell is strong arming the "league"? The "league" voted 11-3.
:been discussed ad-nauseum:
Why would some teams have an issue playing a Vandy/KY/Ole Miss every year?
Of course they did......point is, this was done for UT/Bama and AU/UGA mostly.
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