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re: Can we all agree that the SEC is overrated?

Posted on 12/31/14 at 1:44 pm to
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
38120 posts
Posted on 12/31/14 at 1:44 pm to
quote:

Lsu and ole miss are.


And not A&M?
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42349 posts
Posted on 12/31/14 at 1:44 pm to
LSU loses bowl games.

OM loses bowl games that matter, bowl games that both teams are excited to be in.

This is the status quo for their programs, not a tale about the SEC West.
Posted by CidCock
Member since Sep 2007
Member since Feb 2011
8631 posts
Posted on 12/31/14 at 1:45 pm to
I am as big of an SEC Homer as anyone, but if the result was reversed, everyone (myself included) would have our chests out. We should own it, SEC is overrated.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42349 posts
Posted on 12/31/14 at 1:45 pm to
quote:


And not A&M?



Aggy beat WVU in their bowl game.

Seems only two SEC west teams have had trouble with small religious schools, while the rest have dominated the large state schools.
Posted by Orangeswarm
Chattanooga, TN
Member since Dec 2014
325 posts
Posted on 12/31/14 at 1:46 pm to
Exactly
Posted by Bham4Tide
In a Van down by the River
Member since Feb 2011
22091 posts
Posted on 12/31/14 at 1:46 pm to
Not overrated.

Only LSU and Ole Miss suck.
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
38120 posts
Posted on 12/31/14 at 1:46 pm to
quote:

Aggy beat WVU in their bowl game.


So disregard their season? Now it just comes down bowl games? That's not the point I'm trying to make. Also, WVU was without their starting QB, no?
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 12/31/14 at 1:47 pm to
We're not ranked and won our bowl game. How can we be overrated? All we do is steal coaches.
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
38120 posts
Posted on 12/31/14 at 1:48 pm to
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We're not ranked and won our bowl game. How can we be overrated? All we do is steal coaches.


Where did y'all start?

And save the Chavis BS. I want him gone.
Posted by bigblake
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 12/31/14 at 1:48 pm to
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This post was edited on 11/5/15 at 9:27 pm
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 12/31/14 at 1:49 pm to
quote:

Ole Miss is overrated and LSU is meh. The rest of the West is pretty damn salty though.



Agree
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12402 posts
Posted on 12/31/14 at 1:50 pm to
Meh, I'll agree with this if MSU gets trucked by Tech, but Ole Miss had no business in this game or being in the top 10.

Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
38120 posts
Posted on 12/31/14 at 1:51 pm to
It's safe the say Arky was underrated...they aren't included in this discussion.

Just the SEC as a whole
Posted by Mohican
Member since Nov 2012
6179 posts
Posted on 12/31/14 at 1:54 pm to
College football has changed so much in the last 5 years that it is almost like college basketball where the teams with the best coaches will be the best teams.
It's not quite there yet, but close.

5 or 10 years ago the HUNH wasn't as prevalent and programs recruited more within their own recruiting base. Also, the SEC was much more committed to football as a conference than any other.

Now, with new TV contracts programs across the country are going all in with their football programs like most of the SEC has always been. They are recognizing that you have to supplement your recruiting base with players from the South, and the HUNH is drastically changing the game.

It's just different now. The SEC set a bar for others to reach, and they are proceeding to do so. The SEC will always have a talent advantage, but not nearly as much so. Therefore, coaching will play a much bigger part.

I also think that the motivation factor for teams playing against the SEC works against SEC teams, as everyone wants to see the bully get beat up. Other conferences' coaches are tired of hearing it ala Bob Stoops, so they show up highly motivated.

So, essentially yes, the gap has closed.
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
28604 posts
Posted on 12/31/14 at 1:56 pm to
This isn't the SEC'S strongest year... but, we're up 4-2 in bowls... and people are judging an entire conference based off of ONE terrible game vs an opponent that is very good compared to any team.

Yep, everything is normal! Lol.

The SEC is top heavy for now. But no one can win them all. I do agree ole miss is going to hurt our case temporarily in terms of public perception tho. And it's a fair single argument... but thankfully Arkansas went out and whipped some arse. Georgia went out and whipped some arse. LSU kept it very competitive, South Carolina whipped some arse... Texas a&m whipped some arse.

HOPEFULLY Bama puts an exclamation at the end. But this is ALL why they play the game on the field!
This post was edited on 12/31/14 at 1:57 pm
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 12/31/14 at 1:56 pm to
Ole miss wasn't as good as TCU. Ole Miss fully healthy wasn't as good as TCU. LSU, playing their #2's, should have beaten ND.
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
38120 posts
Posted on 12/31/14 at 1:58 pm to
quote:

This isn't the SEC'S strongest year... we're up 4-2 in bowls... and people are judging an entire conference based off of ONE terrible game vs an opponent that is very good compared to any team.


That's not at all what I'm doing. Look at where the SEC started, and now look at them.

But like I said maybe it was one year and I'll be proven wrong. Maybe this was just a fluke year. But I've been noticing this gap closing for a couple years.

Or maybe it's just the extreme SEC homerism that has turned me off.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37613 posts
Posted on 12/31/14 at 1:58 pm to
quote:

Can we all agree that the SEC is overrated?


The West certainly appears to be.
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
38120 posts
Posted on 12/31/14 at 1:59 pm to
quote:

LSU, playing their #2's, should have beaten ND.


We definitely should have beat them. I agree.
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
38120 posts
Posted on 12/31/14 at 1:59 pm to
quote:

College football has changed so much in the last 5 years that it is almost like college basketball where the teams with the best coaches will be the best teams.
It's not quite there yet, but close.

5 or 10 years ago the HUNH wasn't as prevalent and programs recruited more within their own recruiting base. Also, the SEC was much more committed to football as a conference than any other.

Now, with new TV contracts programs across the country are going all in with their football programs like most of the SEC has always been. They are recognizing that you have to supplement your recruiting base with players from the South, and the HUNH is drastically changing the game.

It's just different now. The SEC set a bar for others to reach, and they are proceeding to do so. The SEC will always have a talent advantage, but not nearly as much so. Therefore, coaching will play a much bigger part.

I also think that the motivation factor for teams playing against the SEC works against SEC teams, as everyone wants to see the bully get beat up. Other conferences' coaches are tired of hearing it ala Bob Stoops, so they show up highly motivated.

So, essentially yes, the gap has closed.


great post
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