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Posted on 10/18/12 at 12:46 pm to aggressor
Posted on 10/18/12 at 12:46 pm to aggressor
If UF would have had some footage of the new A&M offense prior to the game A&M may have been blanked, like they were from mid-way through the second quarter until the clock ran out. The blueprint is out there, and A&M is fricked
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Posted on 10/18/12 at 12:47 pm to NawlinsTigah270
That was JMs first game as a freshman.
Posted on 10/18/12 at 12:49 pm to Phil Wenneck
Transitive property is bullshite. So are scores from years ago.
Posted on 10/18/12 at 12:58 pm to NawlinsTigah270
I think this is the most significant factor of the game:
Total O v D:
#73 LSU O v. #72 A&M D -- Advantage Push
#6 A&M O v. #2 LSU D -- Advantage Push
Scoring O v D:
#5 A&M O v. #8 LSU D -- Advantage Push
#49 LSU O v. #36 A&M D -- Advantage A&M
Total O v D:
#73 LSU O v. #72 A&M D -- Advantage Push
#6 A&M O v. #2 LSU D -- Advantage Push
Scoring O v D:
#5 A&M O v. #8 LSU D -- Advantage Push
#49 LSU O v. #36 A&M D -- Advantage A&M
This post was edited on 10/18/12 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 10/18/12 at 1:02 pm to NawlinsTigah270
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If UF would have had some footage of the new A&M offense prior to the game A&M may have been blanked, like they were from mid-way through the second quarter until the clock ran out. The blueprint is out there, and A&M is fricked
Well I am glad you guys have everything all figured out, lucky for you the offense we ran against UF hasn't changed or evolved a bit in the last 5 games
Posted on 10/18/12 at 1:02 pm to Phil Wenneck
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That was JMs first game as a freshman
Or maybe it only took a quarter and a half to figure out the offense and stop it with speed and athleticism on defense, something of which A&M has faced only one time and came up short
Posted on 10/18/12 at 1:08 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
Come on now, we all know a RsFR Johnny Football is way better than a rookie starting NFL QB Tannehill could have ever been.
Posted on 10/18/12 at 1:16 pm to ccomeaux
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RsFR Johnny Football
He's a perfect fit for their gimmick offense, but no way he's a top 10 pick and starter from day 1 in the NFL like Tannehill
Posted on 10/18/12 at 1:19 pm to ccomeaux
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Come on now, we all know a RsFR Johnny Football is way better than a rookie starting NFL QB Tannehill could have ever been.
Considering that Tannehill is a below-average NFL QB and was only drafted because of Sherman...
Posted on 10/18/12 at 1:23 pm to NawlinsTigah270
The real key for UF was their offense was able to move the ball effectively in the 2nd half by Driskel creating with his feet and making some tremendous throws. A&M just couldn't make a few key stops. If the Mettsiah plays like that we are in trouble.
It was also noteworthy that UF was frustrating the hell out of Manziel by doing the "cramp" defense that was throwing off his rhythm significantly. Manziel was clearly getting confused and frustrated by it. Same strategy hasn't bothered him since. He also wasn't seeing some open receivers deep in that game and tried to do everything with his feet or with short passes.
UF wasn't crushing A&M's offense so much as frustrating and confusing it. We ended up with a several 3rd and shorts that we didn't convert that really hurt but there were few negative plays and no turnovers. Remember as well that UF played a Spread team (albeit a weak one) in Bowling Green the week before (and that game was in doubt until the 4th Quarter).
Maybe LSU comes in and does the same thing. Maybe they also just physically dominate A&M. Maybe the fact that LSU hasn't faced an offense nearly as good or remotely similar in style to A&M will make no difference. Maybe not though.
A good example of course is Manziel himself. I brought an article a few days ago that showed how the LSU D felt they had dealt with mobile QB's before so they were prepared. Problem is that Manziel doesn't act like a normal mobile QB. Sure, he is fast and mobile but he is also insanely shifty. He makes people miss constantly and he is really more like a RB playing QB. It's just a very different style than what LSU has faced and combined with the Hurry Up Spread attack it is a handful.
It was also noteworthy that UF was frustrating the hell out of Manziel by doing the "cramp" defense that was throwing off his rhythm significantly. Manziel was clearly getting confused and frustrated by it. Same strategy hasn't bothered him since. He also wasn't seeing some open receivers deep in that game and tried to do everything with his feet or with short passes.
UF wasn't crushing A&M's offense so much as frustrating and confusing it. We ended up with a several 3rd and shorts that we didn't convert that really hurt but there were few negative plays and no turnovers. Remember as well that UF played a Spread team (albeit a weak one) in Bowling Green the week before (and that game was in doubt until the 4th Quarter).
Maybe LSU comes in and does the same thing. Maybe they also just physically dominate A&M. Maybe the fact that LSU hasn't faced an offense nearly as good or remotely similar in style to A&M will make no difference. Maybe not though.
A good example of course is Manziel himself. I brought an article a few days ago that showed how the LSU D felt they had dealt with mobile QB's before so they were prepared. Problem is that Manziel doesn't act like a normal mobile QB. Sure, he is fast and mobile but he is also insanely shifty. He makes people miss constantly and he is really more like a RB playing QB. It's just a very different style than what LSU has faced and combined with the Hurry Up Spread attack it is a handful.
Posted on 10/18/12 at 1:23 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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below-average NFL QB
You're quite the idiot it seems. He is 17th in QBR out of 33 quarterbacks not even half way through his rookie campaign and all that without a legit receiving threat. I'd call that pretty damn good.
Posted on 10/18/12 at 1:30 pm to NawlinsTigah270
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He is 17th in QBR out of 33 quarterbacks
33/2 = 16.5
Below Average. Bam.
Posted on 10/18/12 at 1:31 pm to NawlinsTigah270
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Or maybe it only took a quarter and a half to figure out the offense and stop it with speed and athleticism on defense, something of which A&M has faced only one time and came up short
No. There were open receivers all over the field in the second half, Johnny was just panicking because he didn't have a grasp of the offense.
Posted on 10/18/12 at 1:34 pm to TeLeFaWx
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There were open receivers all over the field in the second half
Awesome. He can scramble but can't find the open receiver. This bodes well for the Tigers
Posted on 10/18/12 at 1:35 pm to NawlinsTigah270
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You're quite the idiot it seems. He is 17th in QBR out of 33 quarterbacks not even half way through his rookie campaign and all that without a legit receiving threat. I'd call that pretty damn good.
Posted on 10/18/12 at 1:35 pm to NawlinsTigah270
Again, I don't think it's a question of A&M's offensive production. This game is a referendum on LSU scoring offense.
Scoring Offense v. Scoring Defense
#49 LSU O v. #36 A&M D
LSU's objectives should be:
1. Keep A&M's offense in front and force field goals.
2. Long sustained drives ending in touchdowns, not field goals.
A&M's offense will move the ball and get into the red zone more often than not. Defenses shut this type of offense down in the red zone because the back of the endzone limits the space to work with.
Forcing A&M to settle for field goals, rather than touchdowns should be the defense's primary objective, because A&M will move the football. LSU can't rely heavily on the defense to force 3-and-outs and maintain a short field for the offense. LSU's offense must contribute.
If LSU can move the ball on long, sustained drives, get touchdowns (not field goals), and shut A&M down in the red zone to force field goals, LSU will get a solid victory. Any other mix is not good for LSU.
A&M's objective should be:
1. Stack the box and force LSU to throw.
2. Run their offense as usual.
Scoring Offense v. Scoring Defense
#49 LSU O v. #36 A&M D
LSU's objectives should be:
1. Keep A&M's offense in front and force field goals.
2. Long sustained drives ending in touchdowns, not field goals.
A&M's offense will move the ball and get into the red zone more often than not. Defenses shut this type of offense down in the red zone because the back of the endzone limits the space to work with.
Forcing A&M to settle for field goals, rather than touchdowns should be the defense's primary objective, because A&M will move the football. LSU can't rely heavily on the defense to force 3-and-outs and maintain a short field for the offense. LSU's offense must contribute.
If LSU can move the ball on long, sustained drives, get touchdowns (not field goals), and shut A&M down in the red zone to force field goals, LSU will get a solid victory. Any other mix is not good for LSU.
A&M's objective should be:
1. Stack the box and force LSU to throw.
2. Run their offense as usual.
Posted on 10/18/12 at 1:39 pm to KaiserSoze99
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1. Stack the box and force LSU to throw
We're going to run, run, run whether it works or not and even if 8 or 9 are in the box. That's just what we do. Hopefully the new offensive line starters that dominated a strong USCe front can do the same to the Aggies. If we can't effectively run the ball, we will lose for sure.
Posted on 10/18/12 at 1:41 pm to NawlinsTigah270
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We're going to run, run, run whether it works or not and even if 8 or 9 are in the box. That's just what we do.
You mean that's all you CAN do.
Posted on 10/18/12 at 1:48 pm to KaiserSoze99
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A&M's objective should be:
1. Stack the box and force LSU to throw.
2. Run their offense as usual.
This did not work out so well for USCe's defense.
LSU gashed the frick out of that shite...running and throwing.
But hey, I think it's the best shot you've got.
Posted on 10/18/12 at 1:49 pm to NawlinsTigah270
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He is 17th in QBR out of 33 quarterbacks
Your stats aren't even correct.
According to the official stats, Tannehill rates 27th out of 33 quarterbacks.
Going further, he's 20th in completion percentage, 15th in total yards, 17th in yards per attempt, tied for 29th in TD passes, tied for 10th most interceptions thrown, and is 17th in yards per game. In other words, he's BELOW AVERAGE.
RUSSELL WILSON is 17th.
This post was edited on 10/18/12 at 1:58 pm
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