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re: Bookmark : Stanford, Iowa, Michigan, Michigan St, and Minnesota fear SEC venues?
Posted on 10/15/14 at 1:05 pm to Cheese Grits
Posted on 10/15/14 at 1:05 pm to Cheese Grits
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If you want to check my Stanford, okay by me.
Stanford's only game at SEC stadiums were at Tulane in '62 and '65.
They haven't played the SEC since Georgia in the '78 Bluebonnett Bowl, and haven't played the SEC in a regular season game since their last game at Tulane in '65.
They have never played a current member of the SEC in a regular season game...home or away.
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Posted on 10/15/14 at 1:25 pm to Cheese Grits
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Iowa looking like never played via porky and mmvol
Minnesota looking like never played via mmvol
According to mcubed.net and CF data warehouse, looks like Iowa, Minnesota, & Michigan never played a regular season game at an SEC stadium...Iowa played Tennessee in the Kick-off Classic in NJ in '87 and Minnesota hosted Vandy in '59 and I think those are the only times those 2 have even played a regular season game against a current SEC team...Michigan has hosted Vandy a couple of times, and UGA as well...
Kentucky hosted Michigan State in '46 (and also in '44): LINK
Posted on 10/15/14 at 1:26 pm to OldPete
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Kentucky hosted Michigan State in '46 (and also in '44):
Michigan State didn't join the Big 10 until 1953...so, that was Pre-B1G days.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 1:33 pm to madmaxvol
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Michigan State didn't join the Big 10 until 1953...so, that was Pre-B1G days.
I know...but several of the teams posted thus far (Rutgers, Maryland, TCU, among others) weren't part of their current conferences now so I figured it didn't matter...
On another note though, to Michigan State's credit, they agreed to a home and away series with Bama for 2016/17...but we backed out of it last year...
Posted on 10/15/14 at 1:40 pm to OldPete
Michigan has agreed to a home and home in 2018 2019 I believe...With the hogs. Maybe 2017 2018
Posted on 10/15/14 at 2:04 pm to OldPete
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I know...but several of the teams posted thus far (Rutgers, Maryland, TCU, among others) weren't part of their current conferences now so I figured it didn't matter...
TCU was in the old SWC and pretty sure both Horned Frogs and Baylor played Kentucky back in the 1950's. Just did not go back to check, same with Maryland as UK got Bear and Jerry from the Terps and the Terps got Yow from UK. As Terps were also in the ACC figured somebody played them in the past 50 years.
With the Cards, they will play UK this year as it is a rival game, and they have played multiple games in the past. Michigan State playing SEC as IND then not as a B1G was a point as they are not far from UK or VU. School like Michigan who brags often about their wins seems to only want to play the SEC in Ann Arbor with no return trip historically. Seemed Ohio State was similar.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 2:38 pm to OldPete
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I know...but several of the teams posted thus far (Rutgers, Maryland, TCU, among others) weren't part of their current conferences now so I figured it didn't matter...
I treated them a bit differently since they have been in the B1G for over 60 years....they've had plenty of chances to play at SEC venues since then.
Rutgers, Maryland, TCU, etc...since their recent moves, they haven't had much of a chance to play at SEC Venues...if they haven't played at one in the last 60 years or so...then they have been ducking.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 4:29 pm to BearBait09
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Vitek's gutpack and sailgating is all the excitement I need.
Care to elaborate?
Posted on 10/15/14 at 4:32 pm to Cheese Grits
tailgating on a boat on a disgusting river and eating at a barbeque place
Posted on 10/15/14 at 4:34 pm to Cheese Grits
Kansas St last played at an SEC school in 2007 at Auburn.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 5:04 pm to I-59 Tiger
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played at LSU to open the 1976 season. 6-6 tie.
It wasn't the best way to get off to a good start and Nebraska had a pretty good season in '76.
That may be a reason they never did it again.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 5:08 pm to Kritten
Oregon played in Starville, Mississippi
Posted on 10/15/14 at 5:11 pm to Cheese Grits
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Exactly why I wanted this as Stanford claims several SEC wins that were not SEC wins at all. Course hard to take the PAC seriously when they claim all their PCC wins! For those who are young, the entire conference was disbanded for cheating in the 1950's so no wins during the PCC era should count.
Thanks. I've been around a while and didn't know this.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 5:16 pm to Cheese Grits
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so no wins during the PCC era should count.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 5:21 pm to Porky
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Thanks. I've been around a while and didn't know this.
It is always funny how the west coast always accuses the SEC of cheating while glossing so easily over their own cheating. Funny when they reformed a few years later as the PAC, they did not invite Idaho or Montana as they were the 2 schools who were not cheating the first time.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 5:38 pm to WestCoastAg
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so no wins during the PCC era should count.
I lol'ed as well.
ETA: also "fear?"
This post was edited on 10/15/14 at 5:47 pm
Posted on 10/15/14 at 6:03 pm to FarmersFight
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I lol'ed as well.
Ohio State, Southern Cal, and so on all have years of vacated wins. How many years did Penn State have to vacate? Not talking about dropping wins from individual schools, just wins from conference counts. Here are some examples.
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1939 Oregon in PCC, now counted as PAC
1942 Stanford in PCC, now counted as PAC
1944 Utah (at least they * it and note it was in another conference)
1959 California in PCC, now counted as PAC
NCAA Baseball - CWS : all counted as PAC not PCC
1947 California
1948 Southern Cal
1957 California
1958 Southern Cal
The thread tile was meant to grab the reader. Just fodder for SEC folks when B1G and PAC folks start saying how wonderful they are.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 6:04 pm to Cheese Grits
So because schools were cheating, no wins from that conference against the SEC count?
Posted on 10/15/14 at 6:17 pm to WestCoastAg
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So because schools were cheating, no wins from that conference against the SEC count?
Not during that point, probably not, and not just against the SEC. The bigger point is that if you disband a conference all new wins accrue to the new conference and all old wins stay with the old conference. When the PAC tallies NCAA hardware, they do it partly with PCC hardware.
Say UCLA wins - especially NCAA hardware wins - and they stay with the conference at the time. SWC is dead, should the B12 claim their hardware and wins? At least most every other conference morphed into the current one. Western became the B1G and the Missouri Valley became the Big 6, 7, and 8. Neither was disbanded for cheating and started new.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 6:20 pm to Cheese Grits
I wouldn't mind seeing Auburn schedule a home and home with Iowa. They've had a lot of success against SEC schools in bowls in the last ten years. Iowa City is a top notch college town and Kinnick Stadium is a great, underrated venue. I'd be down 
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