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re: Big 14 rankings - THE END ALL BE ALL, THE ALMIGHTY SEC RANKINGS

Posted on 12/22/15 at 1:39 pm to
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70902 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 1:39 pm to
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I'm not a math magician, why divide by 5?



lots of games I'd think

it's still kinda dumb though
Posted by LSUsuperfresh
Member since Oct 2010
8331 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 1:39 pm to
Tier 2 is too large. I think there is a divide (albeit not really illustrated using your metric) between UF and Arkansas.
Posted by GeorgeReymond
Buckhead
Member since Jan 2013
10159 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 1:40 pm to
I'm aware. Then why should those 10 win seasons count if they were prior to the SEC?
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 1:40 pm to
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Tier 2 is too large. I think there is a divide (albeit not really illustrated using your metric) between UF and Arkansas.





The thing that makes Arky and A&M rise on this list is their number of SWC titles. I don't really know how that relates to SEC titles and if it should be a 1 to 1, worth more, worth less, I don't know.



Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 1:41 pm to
Using only AP titles = invalid
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 1:41 pm to
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I'm aware. Then why should those 10 win seasons count if they were prior to the SEC?


I mean, they don't have to I don't guess. There weren't many of them anyway unless a team went undefeated and happened to play a bowl. Alabama had 2 10 win seasons before 1933 and only because they played in and won the Rose Bowl (plus all their other games).
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 1:42 pm to
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Using only AP titles = invalid


Agreed. Alabama gets 6 more.
Posted by Fratigerguy
Member since Jan 2014
4744 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 2:22 pm to
Cfbdatawarehouse already does this, and their points system isn't nearly as gay. Plus you can search by decade, quarter century, etc. much better source of info.

LINK
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 2:25 pm to
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isn't nearly as gay


Isn't nearly as happy or isn't nearly as excited by having sex with other people of the same sex?

Let me guess, it ranks LSU higher?
Posted by Fratigerguy
Member since Jan 2014
4744 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 2:28 pm to
To be honest with you, I have no clue. I haven't looked at it this year. I just clicked on the link, clicked 100 years and copy and pasted. It will probably be close to the same, but they add in other metrics to the ranking system.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 2:29 pm to
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To be honest with you, I have no clue. I haven't looked at it this year. I just clicked on the link, clicked 100 years and copy and pasted. It will probably be close to the same, but they add in other metrics to the ranking system.


Yea, I just quickly assigned values. Clearly isn't end all be all.

I tried to hit your link but for some reason CFBDATAWAREHOUSE is treated as malware. I used to love that site, haven't been to it in forever.
This post was edited on 12/22/15 at 2:29 pm
Posted by LSUsuperfresh
Member since Oct 2010
8331 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 2:39 pm to
quote:

The thing that makes Arky and A&M rise on this list is their number of SWC titles. I don't really know how that relates to SEC titles and if it should be a 1 to 1, worth more, worth less, I don't know. 


That's a fair point and I don't really have an answer either. I just think it's unfair to say UF is relatively equal of program to Arkansas and A&M. I think present status holds more of an influence going forward than what occurred 30 years ago, and I think this metric system fails to account for that. UF is much more of a threat to win the SEC and National Championship for the forseeable future and I don't see that changing anytime soon.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 2:41 pm to
quote:

That's a fair point and I don't really have an answer either. I just think it's unfair to say UF is relatively equal of program to Arkansas and A&M. I think present status holds more of an influence going forward than what occurred 30 years ago, and I think this metric system fails to account for that. UF is much more of a threat to win the SEC and National Championship for the forseeable future and I don't see that changing anytime soon.



Well, I agree, and if you wanted a more "present day" metric you would probably cut it off at 25-30 years or assign higher values to the last 10 years or something like that.

This was just historical look back, not predictive for the future or even present.
Posted by Fratigerguy
Member since Jan 2014
4744 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 2:43 pm to
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I tried to hit your link but for some reason CFBDATAWAREHOUSE is treated as malware. I used to love that site, haven't been to it in forever.


Well damn. That's weird. I'll try to go copy and paste and see how it ranks compared to yours.
Posted by VFL1800FPD
Nashville, TN
Member since Aug 2012
9056 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 2:50 pm to
CFB Warehouse puts LSU at #2

Any LSU fan saying they "honestly don't know that" are more full of shite than my large colon

Edit: I do like CFB warehouse except that part

This post was edited on 12/22/15 at 2:56 pm
Posted by RANDY44
Member since Aug 2005
9572 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 2:54 pm to
aTm and Ark have tons of Non-SEC points. Aubrn really 6th in SEC terms. Also bogus not to count BCS titles won on the field when. For that matter, any UPI titles/Coaches titles should also count as much as AP if the AP went with someone else. Other than that, nice effort.
Posted by Fratigerguy
Member since Jan 2014
4744 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 2:59 pm to
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CFB Warehouse puts LSU at #2


For what time frame are you looking at? And I had zero idea what it had LSU ranked. I haven't looked at it in a while, and not at the rankings when I did. For some reason on my phone it is loading and freezing halfway....just before it puts up the teams. Not sure if it is reception or due to something else such as what was said earlier with it being malware....which is exactly why I haven't copied and pasted as I said I would. But go figure you would like it except for the fact that it doesn't have TN 2.
Posted by rantfan
new iberia la
Member since Nov 2012
14110 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 3:09 pm to
Fair assessment
Posted by Pigfeet
Ark Mods are Fascists
Member since Mar 2010
19783 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 3:11 pm to
BIG 6 bitches
Posted by Rzrbackguy
Apalachicola, FL
Member since Jul 2014
2211 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 3:15 pm to
If we're gonna count more recent history...that does make Less "Bert's biatch"...correct?
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