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re: Big 12 is screwed

Posted on 6/8/17 at 2:55 pm to
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145240 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 2:55 pm to
And not even just Texas. It's literally no one
Posted by Sevendust912
Member since Jun 2013
11366 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 2:56 pm to
I was talking about from a competition standpoint.

I mean who is the #2 SEC team? Florida, Auburn? meh.
This post was edited on 6/8/17 at 2:57 pm
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
95982 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 2:56 pm to
quote:

I was talking about from a competition standpoint.




Oh then yeah, not even Texas.
Posted by jcolding41
Member since Sep 2015
5694 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 2:59 pm to
We've had 4 teams win a natty in the SEC since 05 and 8 total. So yeah I guess bama really is the only good SEC team.
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
95982 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 3:11 pm to
quote:

I mean who is the #2 SEC team? Florida, Auburn? meh.


...Who is the #1 Big 12 team?
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34342 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 3:35 pm to
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Florida, Auburn? meh.



Both have won national titles this century and both have been to two national title games.

More than West Virginia can say.
Posted by jcolding41
Member since Sep 2015
5694 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 3:47 pm to
Every big 12 fan would sacrifice their firstborn to have Florida and auburn join the conference. Big 12 is shite.
Posted by oman
Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
3280 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 3:51 pm to
quote:

Every big 12 fan would sacrifice their firstborn to have Florida and auburn join the conference. Big 12 is shite.


Feh.

I'm only for Texas, and things will work out for Texas.

(It would be nice to get Arkansas and LSU, though. Arkansas/Tex and LSU/Tex games would be great.)
Posted by MIZZOU_JP
Member since Apr 2015
1813 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 4:06 pm to
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The schools I mentioned would be in real trouble, and I think would most likely end up in some sort of reorganized WAC type conference with Baylor, Tech, TCU, KSU, ISU joining up with Colorado State, the New Mexico schools, UNLV, Boise State, Wyoming, and probably Air Force. Something like that.


Do you mean the Mountain West? Not a horrible conference.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 4:28 pm to
quote:

If I am not mistaken, the Big 12 grant of rights is good until 2025. That means any program that leaves the Big 12 before then loses all media rights and I can't see any program walking away from that unless they can get out of it.


Agreed. I don't know how many schools have to vote to dissolve the G-of-R, but I assume it's at least a majority. That means unless at least three of Baylor, Texas Tech, TCU, Iowa State, Kansas State, WVU and Oklahoma State get safe and secure landing spots, there won't be a majority voting to get rid of it. Oklahoma, Texas and maybe Kansas would likely be OK with getting rid of it because they would probably think they have a good shot of getting into a better or at least equal situation. Maybe in a longshot, OSU could ride OU's coattails into a good spot, K-State could try to do the same with KU, and WVU could maybe try to find a way into the ACC, Big Ten or SEC, but that's about the only hope of getting a majority to agree to dissolve the grant-of-rights, which would be tantamount to dissolving the conference.

It's a huge mess, and losing the Big XII would not only be bad for the member schools, but would also hurt college football. One of the great things about CFB compared to the NFL is the large number of schools from all over the country. The sport benefits from having major football powers spread out among several conferences. It's in danger of being down to four power conferences which contain all of the big-time programs. In the long run, I don't think that will be good for college football. The huge and ever-growing gap between the haves and the have-nots may cause a problem when there aren't enough haves to sustain national interest.

It's a pipe dream, I know, but I really think it would be good if the whole FBS simply agreed to redistribute all 128 teams among eight 16-team conferences with two divisions each, with each division winner advancing to a conference championship and each conference champion advancing to an eight-team playoff. This would help eliminate all the subjective factors influencing playoff selection. Schools could play seven divisional games that would be the only ones that would count toward the standings for CCG and playoff purposes. There could be a lot of great non-conference/division scheduling because teams wouldn't have to worry about non-division losses hurting their playoff chances. Keeping an eye toward maintaining competitive balance with the distribution of schools among conferences and divisions, along with equal sharing of media and bowl/playoff revenues among all of them, might maintain enough nationwide interest and parity to keep the sport thriving everywhere for a long time. They could even introduce a promotion/relegation system with FCS to keep things interesting for all the programs regardless of status.

Again, yes, I know it would never happen, but I think it would be better than the current system. In addition, there's a strong chance that the sport would make more money overall and everybody, including the players, coaches, schools, networks, bowls (as part of the playoff system or even just as exhibitions like they are now) and certainly the fans, would come out winners.
This post was edited on 6/8/17 at 4:53 pm
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
11035 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 6:14 pm to
You aren't that league anymore. Meyer is gone. Miles is gone. You're a one team league with one coach dominating a bunch of also rans. That's reality.
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
11035 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 6:15 pm to
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Every big 12 fan


There's no such thing.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145240 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 6:16 pm to
There was no such thing prior to July 1st of 2012. Now it's a big thing. I wonder why
Posted by LiveGold
Louisiana/Texas/Cali/NY
Member since Nov 2011
730 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 6:47 pm to
Landofthieves, in their conference realignment thread, keeps mentioning a scenario where we take Texas Tech with Texas and OSU with OU. Not sure what makes them think we would take the dead weight of TT and OSU just to get to Texas and OU? I can MAYBE see OSU with OU, but Texas Tech? NO!
This post was edited on 6/8/17 at 6:56 pm
Posted by StlPoke
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2017
1191 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 7:07 pm to
quote:

can MAYBE see OSU with OU, but Texas Tech? NO


at TT

I get the idea that adding a "small market" school is not desirable, but let's not act like the OSU athletic department is "dead weight"

Both Oklahoma schools have great athletic department profiles. Oklahoma is just a really small state
Posted by Sooner5030
Desert Southwest
Member since Sep 2014
1717 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 7:16 pm to
The SEC does not need UT or OU.

If either OU or UT leave the B12 for the B1G/PAC/ACC they will take in less TV revenue.

They would both lose their tier 3 revenue and have to take a partial share for the first couple of years.

As much as I would like a super 64 (16 x 4)... it's not happening. The PAC was too stupid to add the Texoma 4 a few years ago. Now they make less than OU/UT.
This post was edited on 6/8/17 at 7:24 pm
Posted by Dude man 25
Member since Dec 2016
461 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 7:23 pm to
The SEC is easily the best conference and the Big 12 is garbage....

But Oklahoma is a blue blood and will be good regardless of what conference were in.
Posted by Tiger Live2
Westwego, LA
Member since Mar 2012
9596 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 7:25 pm to
quote:

The Beakers? As much as I hate to say it, their basketball program and the fact that they're an AAU school probably gets them into the Big 10. I'd prefer it if they ended up in the NAIA. 

As much as it pains me to say this, if we can't get a VA and NC ACC team, if the Big 12 explodes, I wouldn't be apposed to them here. God knows we need better basketball programs. Consistently.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19098 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 7:46 pm to
quote:

If UT and OU are smart they will bolt for the B1G/PAC/SEC.


Not only no but Hell NO (in SEC anyway)!
Posted by BreakawayZou83
Kansas City, Missouri
Member since Oct 2011
9505 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 7:53 pm to
Who knew there were so many OU and UT fans lurking around here? Now why would these fine fans who keep telling us how great the Big 12 is be so interested in an SEC message board?
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