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re: Better Coach-----Bret Bielema or Les Miles??
Posted on 11/16/15 at 10:48 pm to hg
Posted on 11/16/15 at 10:48 pm to hg
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Guy is a winner.
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Then what is Miles?
Well, he's close, but still one letter short. The right term for him is weiner.
Aggies love them raw, but corndogs prefer to deep fry theirs, as they're getting ready to do to Les right now.
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 10:51 pm to tigerfan in bamaland
Obviously. Sabans 03 and 04 LSU classes were loaded. From 03 until 07 LSU was the most talented team in the SECW by far and only USC had a comparable roster nationally.
It's also well known the binders of notes Saban left Miles about individual players strength weaknesses etc. Miles also retained some of Saban's staff most notably Jimbo Fisher and Tommy Moffitt. If you don't believe the huge roster advantage LSU had from 03 til 07 was not the result of the classes Saban put together I don't know what to tell you.
It's also well known the binders of notes Saban left Miles about individual players strength weaknesses etc. Miles also retained some of Saban's staff most notably Jimbo Fisher and Tommy Moffitt. If you don't believe the huge roster advantage LSU had from 03 til 07 was not the result of the classes Saban put together I don't know what to tell you.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 10:54 pm to BhamDore
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It's also well known the binders of notes Saban left Miles about individual players strength weaknesses etc
Funny fact about this. Not nearly as many LSU fan's know about this or they refuse to admit it.
I've never actually seen those in person but I've seen pics from guys that GA'd at LSU. Those were the first glimpse into how deep Saban breaks-down his players.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 10:56 pm to TopHog1
From tiger rant right now 
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What would it take to get Bret Bielema? Would u take him
Posted by broadcaster on 11/16/15 at 10:44 pm
Before u bash me I understand he almost went winless in the SEC for two years, but he inherited a dumpster fire and had players that wasn't recruited for his system. They still were competitive and Arkansas doesn't have top recruiting classes. He is slowly building them. so really if they have a bad game they should lose to a lot less inferior opponent that what we do. shite the great Nick Saban lost to UAB and ULM. With the talent he could get it at LSU, his system would work here really well. Its Miles's system with some creativity! Coach O on staff getting all that Louisiana
talent and building his defensive front seven. I really think that will be a scary LSU team
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 11:00 pm to dbeck
LMAO. Got them cajun wheels turning
Posted on 11/16/15 at 11:02 pm to TopHog1
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Yes, I would, but hes no going anywhere. Arky pays him well.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 11:04 pm to BhamDore
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It's also well known the binders of notes Saban left Miles about individual players strength weaknesses etc.
Miles won a championship with Saban's players and his notes? lol
Holy shite. That is some good arse shite you smoke.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 11:15 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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Who the frick is Bret Bielema?
I get it. It's funny because people call him Bert. You're a funny guy. Hahahaha.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 11:16 pm to BlackCloud
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Since he got to Arky:
Total record- 16-19
SEC record- 6-16
SEC West record- 5-12
Is that the record of a "winner"?
But but but...we beat LSU two years in a row. Poor fools.
If you put Les in the same situation CBB had to deal with Les' record would be worse than the above and h would be fired before year 4.
Les has feasted on La talent but he is a subpar coach, a subpar developer of talent, and a game mismanager....plus he is a dumbass.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 11:18 pm to ShreveportHog94
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Since he got to Arky:
Total record- 16-19
SEC record- 6-16
SEC West record- 5-12
Is that the record of a "winner"?
But but but...we beat LSU two years in a row. Poor fools
That is downright embarrassing
Posted on 11/16/15 at 11:23 pm to TopHog1
Id say from a coaching standpoint id take Bret all day over Les.
Just think if Les didn't constantly pull top 5 classes. He'd be bagging groceries. Hell he cant win WITH them.
Just think if Les didn't constantly pull top 5 classes. He'd be bagging groceries. Hell he cant win WITH them.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 11:27 pm to Cruiserhog
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If you put Les in the same situation CBB had to deal with Les' record would be worse than the above and h would be fired before year 4. Les has feasted on La talent but he is a subpar coach, a subpar developer of talent, and a game mismanager....plus he is a dumbass.
Miles went 8-5 and 9-4 in his second and third seasons at Oklahoma St. after taking over for a 3-8 team.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 11:30 pm to tigerfan in bamaland
How would you explain the early success of Les Miles vs the lack of success he currently is experiencing?
1st 3 years = 3 top 5 finishes, 2 division titles, 2 BCS bowl wins, 1 National championship.
Next 8 years= 1 top 5 finish, 1 division title, 0 BCS/major bowl wins, 0 national championships.
I guess Les Miles just magically had twice the success in his first 3 years than the last 8 years combined. It's all just a big coincidence.
Those monster 03 and 04 classes did not have LSU's talent level at only a level USC could match.
Retaining members of the staff Saban put together had no impact on Les Miles early success. Jimbo,Moffitt, and Stacy Searels. He was spoon fed and handed the keys to championship program.
1st 3 years = 3 top 5 finishes, 2 division titles, 2 BCS bowl wins, 1 National championship.
Next 8 years= 1 top 5 finish, 1 division title, 0 BCS/major bowl wins, 0 national championships.
I guess Les Miles just magically had twice the success in his first 3 years than the last 8 years combined. It's all just a big coincidence.
Those monster 03 and 04 classes did not have LSU's talent level at only a level USC could match.
Retaining members of the staff Saban put together had no impact on Les Miles early success. Jimbo,Moffitt, and Stacy Searels. He was spoon fed and handed the keys to championship program.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 12:32 am to momentoftruth87
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One beats the other consistently.
Wouldn't call two years consistently
Posted on 11/17/15 at 12:57 am to tigerbait17
Better coaching career- Les Miles and it's not even close.
Better coach right now- Bielema
Better coach right now- Bielema
Posted on 11/17/15 at 1:09 am to LSUgriffin0811
if bret had the talent that Les had (Les couldn't recruit the way he does at arkansas) bret would actually challenge saban unlike les. I'm not sure there should really be a debate about this. it's obvious who is the better coach.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 1:14 am to presidenthog
Its not a debate right now. Any LSU fan that says les miles is a better coach right now is fooling themselves. Career wise Bielema is not a hair on les's arse. Right now les has reached the end and Bielema is in his prime. Shame he will waste away at Arkansas. Just not a good spot to try and win championships. Only think keeps miles a float is his recruiting ability. He's one of the nations best at recruiting.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 2:31 am to olemissfan26
Les. Isn't even remotely close
Posted on 11/17/15 at 3:02 am to CajunTiger_225
2-1 is hardly anything to blink an eye at. I remember a time Les Miles was 3-2 over saban. We all know how that story turned out.
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