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re: Better Coach-----Bret Bielema or Les Miles??

Posted on 11/16/15 at 10:16 pm to
Posted by ShreveportHog94
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 10:16 pm to
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Bert lost 19 games in 3 years. It took Miles 7 freaking years to reach that feat, terrible


Miles came in after Saban and the number 1 class in the country. Bret came in place of the worst coach in BCS era. You're a moron for ignoring that fact.
Posted by BlackCloud
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 10:17 pm to
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He coaches circles around Less yearly.
Less has accomplished more but right now Bert is a much better coach and its not close.

Apparently he has your sorry arse convinced just like those hillbillies from Fayetteville.

I watched his press conference and you could tell he can't believe beating LSU and winning that God-awful golden boot trophy would make them forget about the three horrific losses to Toledo, Texas Tech and TAMU.

He was making 2.5m a year at Wisconsin and won 3 conference titles and had four 10+ winning seasons. He is 6-16 in the SEC since he went to Arky and they are happily paying him 4.25m. But but but..he out-coached Les....twice even...really.

Maybe you should triple-down on stupidity and call yourself cajunbamabilly.

This post was edited on 11/16/15 at 10:19 pm
Posted by tigerfan in bamaland
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 10:17 pm to
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no coach on earth past present or future is stepping into that situation and doing any better.


Posted by BhamDore
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 10:21 pm to
Since most of Saban's recruits cycled out Miles has been mostly mediocre. It's no coincidence that most of his success came early in his career. LSU has only won the west 1 time in the last 8 years under Miles. 2011 seems like an anomaly. No BCS or major bowl wins since 07.

While he won the west twice in his first 3 years. He also had 3 top 5 finishes in his 1st 3 years, but only 1 in the last 8 seasons. It's obvious he benefited from the talent and infrastructure Saban left behind.
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 10:24 pm to
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Bret came in place of the worst coach in BCS era. You're a moron for ignoring that fact.


That's funny because the worst coach in the BCS won 2 SEC games in his only season at Arkansas. It took Bert 2 season to accomplish that feat.

It's been 3 years. Is Bert a shitty recruiter or poor developer of talent?

Posted by tigerfan in bamaland
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 10:25 pm to
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Since most of Saban's recruits cycled out Miles has been mostly mediocre.


Damn you dumb.

How many Saban players were around in 11?

Posted by cajunbama
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 10:26 pm to
The FACT remains that Bert is currently a much better coach than Less, no matter what Wisconsin or Arkie paid or pay him. He has a depleted roster and has had a massive rebuilding job.

What do you think Less could do following John L instead of Saban?

Maybe you should go defend Less on the Tiger rant because fellow L5U fans are in a thread saying the same thing I am.

Sorry Less is a has been that made his name riding Saban's coattail.
Posted by ShreveportHog94
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 10:27 pm to
Not the same situation. BP was a good coach however. And Les is a better recruiter or maybe it's just that big a disparity in talent. Either way, if you give me a team and let me choose between Les and Bret, I'm choosing Bret.
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 10:27 pm to
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The FACT remains that Bert is currently a much better coach than Les


I dont think you understand what the word FACT means.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 10:28 pm to
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Better Coach-----Bret Bielema or Les Miles??
Bret beat Miles twice in a row.

Bret has zero talent on his roster, Miles has top 5 classes every year.

Bret is a better coach, which makes Miles a lower bottom half coach.
Posted by cajunbama
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 10:28 pm to
That's why he said 2011 was an anomaly and he is correct.
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 10:29 pm to
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That's why he said 2011 was an anomaly and he is correct.


stfu
Posted by presidenthog
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 10:29 pm to
bert. he has shown he can have an elite defense and now an elite offense and he could have both at the same time one day.
Posted by cajunbama
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 10:30 pm to
Bert hasn't even been at Arkie 3 years. I agree his best wins are against a has been in Less Miles.
Posted by higgs_boson
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 10:31 pm to
People should stop piling on Miles. No one thought LSU was going to be that great before the year started and now, low and behold, he has lost games to good teams.


I think Bret is doing a really good job. But if he had been at LSU they would have burned his house down for losing to Toledo.

I think Arkansas fans are not as removed from reality as some LSU fans are.
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 10:31 pm to
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bert. he has shown he can have an elite defense and now an elite offense and he could have both at the same time one day.


He's also shown he can lose to Toledo.

Posted by BhamDore
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 10:33 pm to
2011 Anomaly. What about 2008, 2009,2010, 2012, 2013, 2014,2015.

All years he failed to win the west, finish in the top 5 or even sniff a major Bowl. To pretend like most of his success did not come early in his career is just not true. 2005,2006,and obviously 2007 are 3 of his most successful season. LSU finished top 5 in those seasons. Only 1 other time in his 8 following season has he done so. He is not nearly having success at the same clip as early in his career.
Posted by BlackCloud
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 10:36 pm to
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But if he had been at LSU they would have burned his house down for losing to Toledo,Texas Tech, aTm (he is now 0-3 against the aggots), Miss St.(0-2), bama (0-3) and Auburn (1-2).


I'm telling you Bert has already figured out if he beats LSU every year and goes 7-5 or 8-4 he can make 4.25m a year in perpetuity.
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 10:37 pm to
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BhamDore


So you attribute this to Saban?



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Posted on 11/16/15 at 10:39 pm to
You are cracking me up
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