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re: Best player your team played last year
Posted on 7/10/16 at 10:11 am to JesusQuintana
Posted on 7/10/16 at 10:11 am to JesusQuintana
Watson was the best followed by Myles Garrett. No one else really stood out.
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Posted on 7/10/16 at 10:12 am to navynuke
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Garrett has things in his game that need work but if you are looking at just getting after the QB, he isn't overrated.
He finished tied for 7th in the league in sacks in SEC play with only 6 in 8 games. Texas A&M as a team finished 9th in the league in SEC play in sacks last season.
Posted on 7/10/16 at 10:12 am to JesusQuintana
1. DeShawn Watson
2. Nkimdiche
2. Nkimdiche
Posted on 7/10/16 at 10:14 am to navynuke
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Garrett had 6 sacks vs 208 passing attempts, the fewest attempts faced in conference play. He had the the best sack to attempt ratio in the league.
Then he needs to learn how to play the run better. aTm was dead last in SEC play in rush defense. That is why teams did not pass on them. They did not need to.
Garrett was 3rd in the league in SEC only games in TFL. Considering your logic, he should have been better considering teams ran against aTm more than any other team in the league. 358 attempts to be exact.
Posted on 7/10/16 at 10:36 am to Hawgeye
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Then he needs to learn how to play the run better. aTm was dead last in SEC play in rush defense. That is why teams did not pass on them. They did not need to.
Garrett was 3rd in the league in SEC only games in TFL. Considering your logic, he should have been better considering teams ran against aTm more than any other team in the league. 358 attempts to be exact.
Dont move the goal posts.
That being said, in an over/under 4-3, the DTs keeping the OGs home dictates rushing defense efficiency, not the DEs. Your logic is flawed.
Posted on 7/10/16 at 10:41 am to cajunbama
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No one else really stood out.
Robert Nkemdiche blew up your OL. He didn't stand out?
Posted on 7/10/16 at 10:45 am to navynuke
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Dont move the goal posts.
The goal posts aren't being moved. I am using your logic.
You stated that he had fewer sacks in league play because aTm was passed on a league low. So, he should have been better against the run and had more TFL since his defense led the league in times being run against.
Its pretty simple.
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That being said, in an over/under 4-3, the DTs keeping the OGs home dictates rushing defense efficiency, not the DEs. Your logic is flawed.
My logic is not flawed. Having experience playing in a 4-3 defense the DE's assignments give him ample opportunity to have TFL or sacks on most plays. Offensive guards will release to a LB that is covering them if the offense is facing a 4-3 defense. Most DT's in a 4-3 will initially be double teamed or at least chipped, giving the DE's one on one match ups on almost each and every play.
Posted on 7/10/16 at 10:47 am to Emanonion
quote:Consider the source.quote:Robert Nkemdiche blew up your OL. He didn't stand out?
No one else really stood out.
Posted on 7/10/16 at 10:54 am to JesusQuintana
Watson, and it's not even close.
Posted on 7/10/16 at 11:07 am to JesusQuintana
Based on the draft it was Goff from Cal
Posted on 7/10/16 at 11:20 am to Emanonion
I left him if because I wasn't including players who cheated by being hopped up on bath salts/stimulants/PEDS.
Posted on 7/10/16 at 12:12 pm to Hawgeye
Jonathan Bullard led the SEC with more 2 TFLs against 15 fewer rushing attempts while played next to a far deeper rotation at DT. There wasn't a DT on aTm"s roster that would start for UF and teams ran right at Garrett in an effort to neutralize him. Garrett also played his division games against a deeper OT pool.
You should let the coaches know they got it wrong when they named him to the 1st team All SEC.
You should let the coaches know they got it wrong when they named him to the 1st team All SEC.
Posted on 7/10/16 at 12:32 pm to navynuke
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Jonathan Bullard led the SEC with more 2 TFLs against 15 fewer rushing attempts
Actually, no. Bullard was tied for 4th in TFL in SEC play with 10.5 TFL.
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teams ran right at Garrett in an effort to neutralize him
No, they ran right at him because he is not good against the run. A physical tackle can handle Garrett run blocking.
Posted on 7/10/16 at 12:57 pm to JesusQuintana
For Arkansas I don't think there is any doubt the most difficult single player they faced last year was Dak Prescott. That dude was a damn animal in our game last year. What was most incredible about it to me was that he was dueling with Brandon Allen who played like an animal himself throwing SEVEN TDs in the game. But each time Dak came right back and tossed one of his own. In the end Dak had 5 TDs and over 500 yards passing.
That game was just a joy to watch...except for the losing part, of course.
That game was just a joy to watch...except for the losing part, of course.
Posted on 7/10/16 at 1:01 pm to Hawgeye
The site I looked at included rushing attempts and TFLs from the SECCG. Regardless, Bullard's ratio is unchanged if the attempts and TFLs from the SECCG are removed. Bullard and Garrett were at the top of their position in the conference with TFL/RA ratios of 1/27 and 1/32 respectively. Bullard had far better talent around him and that isn't arguable.
If you think Garrett sucks, so be it. He'll get drafted in the first or second round next year regardless.
If you think Garrett sucks, so be it. He'll get drafted in the first or second round next year regardless.
This post was edited on 7/10/16 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 7/10/16 at 1:03 pm to JesusQuintana
DeShaun Watson
I was worried about losing the game everytime he had the ball. I can't think of any other player that worried me like him.
I was worried about losing the game everytime he had the ball. I can't think of any other player that worried me like him.
Posted on 7/10/16 at 1:14 pm to navynuke
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If you think he sucks, so be it. He'll get drafted in the first or second round next year regardless.
It isn't about thinking...
They guy had more rushing attempts he went against than any other DE in the league. He got over half of his sacks against Arizona State, Ball State, Nevada, and Western Carolina. 6.5 of his sacks came against OOC teams.
Over his career he has 22.5 sacks. Of those, 14.5 came against OOC teams. Over his career, Garrett has 32 TFL. Of those, 17.5 came against OOC teams.
In his career he has played in 15 SEC games. In 7 of those games he has not had a sack. In the 8 other games, he only had 1 sack. He has never had a multi-sack game in SEC play. In only 4 of those games has he had a multi-TFL game. In all other games, he has had 0-1 TFL in league games.
Posted on 7/10/16 at 1:15 pm to CNB
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Watson but he played a shite game against us.
I don't think so man
Posted on 7/10/16 at 1:20 pm to Hawgeye
Funny how you only talk about sacks yet fail to mention Garrett's plethora of conference forced fumbles.
Posted on 7/10/16 at 1:21 pm to texag7
There is a plethora or something being forced in College Station but it is not fumbles
This post was edited on 7/10/16 at 1:22 pm
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