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re: Best paying degrees/colleges

Posted on 6/3/14 at 10:09 pm to
Posted by Govt Tide
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 10:09 pm to
There is one excellent SEC school Vandy, 3 very good ones A&M, Florida, and UGA, and most of the rest are good.

I'm not even arguing that Auburn isn't a good school. I'm just pointing out how they always have an excuse to explain away literally anything that even remotely suggests that Alabama outshines Auburn academically in any area. Heck, they argue that Samford Law and Jones law school s#### all over an Alabama law degree. That's how fu###d their hatred and delusion is towards the University of Alabama.
Posted by rtr2013
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 10:12 pm to
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Best paying degrees/colleges There is one excellent SEC school Vandy, 3 very good ones A&M, Florida, and UGA, and most of the rest are good. I'm not even arguing that Auburn isn't a good school. I'm just pointing out how they always have an excuse to explain away literally anything that even remotely suggests that Alabama outshines Auburn academically in any area. Heck, they argue that Samford Law and Jones law school s#### all over an Alabama law degree. That's how fu###d their hatred and delusion is towards the University of Alabama.


That's exactly what I was getting at.

Posted by Crimson Legend
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 10:12 pm to
Texas A&M is above MIT, Cornell, Princeton.

Alabama is above Syracuse, Purdue, Vanderbilt, and UMass.

Colorado School of Mines is #15.

I am struggling to find the credibility here.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 10:14 pm to
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No, when USNWR started letting schools report their own data is when the rankings became bogus. When one of their major criteria is acceptance rates it became bogus. When schools have thousands of fans with just a GEDs apply to the school, the acceptance rates naturally decreased. When schools have certain elements of their school incoming class not count toward those figures the ranking became bogus. Just like this ranking, they do not dig very far to get their numbers.



You're delusional.
I'm sure this is bs as well?...
LINK


The article is about self reported salaries, it did not say what % of graduates participated. Not a very scientific survey.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 10:19 pm to
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It's delusional to disregard completely reasonable criteria used in school rankings.


So acceptance rate has what to do with the quality of the school?

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Admission percentage is a totally reasonable thing to measure the prestige of a school.


Oh you do think it has something to do with it

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The link shows another, completely different ranking, that agrees with this one. Hard to argue that both rankings/methodologies/data is bs.


Wait, so you didn't read the second link or you actually think the second link you provided supports the first?

Please go back and read the two links again.

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You guys just resort to pulling stuff out of your arse and say that all of these redneck "GED's" are applying to Bama. That's delusion.


I haven't resorted to anything but logic. Sorry. Again congrats for placing second among three schools.
This post was edited on 6/3/14 at 10:21 pm
Posted by Irons Puppet
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 10:22 pm to
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I'm not even arguing that Auburn isn't a good school. I'm just pointing out how they always have an excuse to explain away literally anything that even remotely suggests that Alabama outshines Auburn academically in any area. Heck, they argue that Samford Law and Jones law school s#### all over an Alabama law degree. That's how fu###d their hatred and delusion is towards the University of Alabama.


Because most HS Counselors in Alabama will tell you UA is watering down their admission and curriculum in order to meet the Pres. goal of enrollment. There are alum who are very concerned about the direction the administration is taking the last 4-5 years.
This post was edited on 6/3/14 at 10:26 pm
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 10:24 pm to
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I'm not even arguing that Auburn isn't a good school. I'm just pointing out how they always have an excuse to explain away literally anything that even remotely suggests that Alabama outshines Auburn academically in any area. Heck, they argue that Samford Law and Jones law school s#### all over an Alabama law degree. That's how fu###d their hatred and delusion is towards the University of Alabama.


Is this your report from the itat today? Do you point this out as well when you do the same?
Posted by MenloDawg
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 10:24 pm to
Really wish I majored in engineering during undergrad. Why didn't anybody tell me!!!??? I blame the parents.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 10:25 pm to
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Because most HS Counselors in Alabama will tell you UA is watering down their admission and curriculum in order to meet the Pres. goal of enrollment. Their are alum who are very concerned about the direction the administration is taking the last 4-5 years.


They have increased enrollment averages even with their expansion. Mostly because of the out of state students.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 10:28 pm to
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They have increased enrollment averages even with their expansion. Mostly because of the out of state students.


Correct, because the offer the moon to those out of state student who can bring the averages up. The problem is the curriculum has to support the rest of the school to keep the numbers up.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 10:29 pm to
Everyone offers stuff, yes they offer more.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 10:32 pm to
ATPB
Posted by Chronic
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 10:34 pm to
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Heck, they argue that Samford Law and Jones law school s#### all over an Alabama law degree.


Where has anyone said that? Alabama has a good, though not great, law school. The other two are obviously much less than great.
Posted by Chronic
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 10:39 pm to
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Because most HS Counselors in Alabama will tell you UA is watering down their admission and curriculum in order to meet the Pres. goal of enrollment. There are alum who are very concerned about the direction the administration is taking the last 4-5 years.


That may or may not be true, but internet bragging over minor fluctuations in incoming SAT scores and GPA scores is beyond stupid. The administration recognized that the school could radically expand its reach and network not by admitting more in-state students, but rather by increasing out-of-state enrollment. More than half of the undergraduate student body is from out of state, when only a decade ago approximately three-fourths of the student body was comprised of Alabama students. Those out-of-state students are paying tuition at double and triple the levels of in-state students. Do you see where this is going?
This post was edited on 6/3/14 at 10:41 pm
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 10:41 pm to
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Those out-of-state students are paying tuition at double and triple the levels of in-state students. Do you see where this is going?


Fwiw, bama offer's in-state tuition to a lot of those new out of state targets.
This post was edited on 6/3/14 at 10:42 pm
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 10:41 pm to
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Everyone offers stuff, yes they offer more.


I know a student that made a 28 on his ACT a couple of years ago. Auburn offered a $1500 scholarship and Bama offered a full ride. Another student made a 22 on their ACT and got a partial scholarship to Bama, but could not get in Auburn. These are the stories that you will get from HS Counselors. They are the ones who are voicing their concerns.
Posted by DrDang
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 10:46 pm to
Damn, and I've been wiping peoples asses for free all this time.
Posted by Old Hellen Yeller
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 10:46 pm to
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Because most HS Counselors in Alabama will tell you UA is watering down their admission and curriculum in order to meet the Pres. goal of enrollment.


Is this how you guys are explaining it now? Heaven forbid some list place UA ahead of AU, it really gets your LBS and insecurity going.

Auburn admits 8 out of every 10 kids that apply. That is the ONLY reason you and your ilk try so hard to convince yourselves and anyone that is dumb enough to listen that acceptance rates are irrelevant.
Posted by Govt Tide
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 10:47 pm to
I don't follow the inner workings of Alabama's faculty/staff concerns as closely as you do so I can't speak for all the things going on behind the scenes. I haven't heard these same concerns. In fact, I've heard the exact opposite. I've heard stories of Alabama pulling students that they would have never been able to 20 years ago. My brother's wife's neice was an Honor student from Florida who had lucrative scholarship offers from her dad's Alma mater Vanderbilt and her mom's who went to Auburn and she chose Alabama. The Florida director of my brother's company (from Florida and an FSU grad) had a daughter in a similar situation that chose Alabama under similar circumstances.

P.S. I'm aware of Auburn's extremely impressive freshmen numbers btw so I'm not suggesting Alabama is doing something Auburn is not. I'm just saying that regardless of what Alabama may have been doing recruitment wise or academically in the past, they have stepped things up big time over the last 5 to 10 years. I know some of you think we are incapable of doing anything competent with regards to academics but that doesn't mean it's true.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 10:48 pm to
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That may or may not be true, but internet bragging over minor fluctuations in incoming SAT scores and GPA scores is beyond stupid. The administration recognized that the school could radically expand its reach and network not by admitting more in-state students, but rather by increasing out-of-state enrollment. More than half of the undergraduate student body is from out of state, when only a decade ago approximately three-fourths of the student body was comprised of Alabama students. Those out-of-state students are paying tuition at double and triple the levels of in-state students. Do you see where this is going?


Yet, when they get their degrees, how many are staying in the state of Alabama. So the state is becoming a mercenary of education to out of state kids and paying for the infrastructure of the Universtiy, while getting nothing in the long term. Both AU and UA need to serve the citizens of Alabama first, instead of chasing an egotistical numbers game.
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