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Posted on 6/5/14 at 5:59 pm to Irons Puppet
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I knew a guy that told me Clemson had a far superior Vet School than AU, it happen to be the school that he could get in. I work for the Government, and AU is highly recognized as one of the best engineering schools in the South (behind GT). What has hurt AU Engineering in the past are their facilities. That has changed recently.
Anecdotal: (of an account) not necessarily true or reliable, based on personal accounts rather than facts or research.
Seriously, how are all auburn graduates indoctrinated to behave like this? How are you so naive? Have you ever left the state of Alabama? Also, btw, most engineers that work for government are lousy, just like everyone else who works for government. Counselors and highly regarded government praise of auburn (as confirmed by dip shite irons puppet) totally beat recent graduate surveys in reliability... There are four engineering schools in the sec ranked higher than auburn by usnews. I'm sure you'll argue that usnews is shite but four schools? How do you think random bs hearsay is proof of auburn's vast superiority in engineering? I've heard that alabama engineers are usually the managers in the government engineering positions in Huntsville? I've seriously heard this before. Does it make it true? Absolutely freaking not. I know a guy that just graduated from auburn with an aerospace engineering degree that can't find a job? How do you explain that? I guess blame Obama? He probably is tight with alabama students since he's seen so much of Saban recently right? The rec at its finest.
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Where the frick is NYC to b**** about how he's pulling stuff from his arse? Please explain the facilities comment. I would love to know how you know auburn graduates were getting paid less because their facilities were lacking. Do tell. If it starts off with, "I know someone," or "I heard," or "when I was fricking my wife, I mean guidance counselor, ugh," then please go blow your brains out.
This post was edited on 6/5/14 at 6:06 pm
Posted on 6/5/14 at 6:08 pm to rtr2013
I agree with everything you said in the first two paragraphs. The third one is off because he was more of talking about how the school was taking a hit research-wise because of facilities.
Posted on 6/5/14 at 6:09 pm to UAFanFromNOLA
Yeah well this whole thread has been about recent salaries. I mean what you are saying makes complete sense but this whole thread has been about recent graduate salaries so I figured guy was referring to that. Either way, it still holds true. Where has he heard the facilities comments? I mean, it's totally only possible that auburn isn't ranked higher because fricking brilliant professors from mit can't handle the souths second best engineering school....
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 8:06 pm to rtr2013
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Anecdotal: (of an account) not necessarily true or reliable, based on personal accounts rather than facts or research.
Seriously, how are all auburn graduates indoctrinated to behave like this? How are you so naive? Have you ever left the state of Alabama? [u]Also, btw, most engineers that work for government are lousy, just like everyone else who works for government.[/u] Counselors and highly regarded government praise of auburn (as confirmed by dip shite irons puppet) totally beat recent graduate surveys in reliability... There are four engineering schools in the sec ranked higher than auburn by usnews. I'm sure you'll argue that usnews is shite but four schools? How do you think random bs hearsay is proof of auburn's vast superiority in engineering? I've heard that alabama engineers are usually the managers in the government engineering positions in Huntsville? I've seriously heard this before. Does it make it true? Absolutely freaking not. I know a guy that just graduated from auburn with an aerospace engineering degree that can't find a job? How do you explain that? I guess blame Obama? He probably is tight with alabama students since he's seen so much of Saban recently right? The rec at its finest.
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Where the frick is NYC to b**** about how he's pulling stuff from his arse? Please explain the facilities comment. I would love to know how you know auburn graduates were getting paid less because their facilities were lacking. Do tell. If it starts off with, "I know someone," or "I heard," or "when I was fricking my wife, I mean guidance counselor, ugh," then please go blow your brains out.
Those lousy engineers at NASA who got us to the moon and back.
Those lousy engineers that work for DOD, who maintain the design of the greatest Military equipment in the world. I have been all over the world and I know those snot nose kids that think that 12" monitor that they look at 24/7 is the real world.
My guess is you work for a small little engineering firm, were they let you redesign a part for a lawn mower or similar product. Maybe in 10 years, they will give you more responsibility and you will get to work for an AU Engineer.
Posted on 6/5/14 at 8:37 pm to Irons Puppet
Puppet, whether these engineers are lousy or brilliant, don't ignore the larger point - anecdotal "evidence" is pretty worthless in a discussion like this.
Posted on 6/5/14 at 8:52 pm to Crimson Legend
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Puppet, whether these engineers are lousy or brilliant, don't ignore the larger point - anecdotal "evidence" is pretty worthless in a discussion like this.
So is quoting a survey that has zero statistical validity. How anecdotal is it to allow the schools to provide the numbers to be used in a publication for PR purposes ? We see what happens when some snot nose graduate is provide with unscientific data. They run and try to tell the world that their 3" is 8".
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:15 pm to Irons Puppet
Better engineers that want to do defense work go to places like Raytheon and KBR, private industries where people's performance actually matters. I see you ignored the facilities explanation. You can't actually believe your hearsay is better than recent graduate surveys having >1000 responses.
Did you not read the definition of anecdotal? Do you need an alabama graduate to draw a picture? That data is readily available on the schools website in their career sections. Again, the paranoia that Alabama manipulates data to better themselves runs rampant with an auburn grad. Do you think if you spew enough bs people will just believe it, or are you actually crazy enough to believe it yourself? Seriously, you're trying to use a hs guidance Counselors opinion to detract from alabamas high starting salaries? How do you think this is reasonable?
Did you not read the definition of anecdotal? Do you need an alabama graduate to draw a picture? That data is readily available on the schools website in their career sections. Again, the paranoia that Alabama manipulates data to better themselves runs rampant with an auburn grad. Do you think if you spew enough bs people will just believe it, or are you actually crazy enough to believe it yourself? Seriously, you're trying to use a hs guidance Counselors opinion to detract from alabamas high starting salaries? How do you think this is reasonable?
This post was edited on 6/5/14 at 9:21 pm
Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:32 pm to rtr2013
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Better engineers that want to do defense work go to places like Raytheon and KBR, private industries where people's performance actually matters. I see you ignored the facilities explanation. You can't actually believe your hearsay is better than recent graduate surveys having >1000 responses.
Did you not read the definition of anecdotal? Do you need an alabama graduate to draw a picture?
I can tell your experience level by your comments about Raytheon and KBR. Government Engineers get a bad rap because so many of their projects lead to nothing. What people right out of college do not realize is the fact that the Government knows that it takes at least 10 years of hands on experience to be worth a damn. If the US purged their workforce every time there is budget cuts, we would be left with recent dumbass graduates to do the important work. So they keep the workforce at a certain level even when there is little work to be done.
You acceptance of a self generated and reported survey with zero criteria for sample size only validates my "dumbass graduates" remarks.
My comment on facilities is in reference to AUs rankings in the past in obscure publications.
This post was edited on 6/5/14 at 10:10 pm
Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:39 pm to Irons Puppet
It's better than hearsay. Also, from experience, any of the jobs gotten through an on campus interview already have the salaries listed and automatically update upon a student taking an offer. Therefore, less people are able to falsify salaries, which I wouldn't have reason to believe many do to begin with. How far will you go to make anything relating to alabama academic success null?
Those dumbass recent graduates probably understand how stupid it is to bring the opinion of a hs guidance counselor into a discussion.
Those dumbass recent graduates probably understand how stupid it is to bring the opinion of a hs guidance counselor into a discussion.
This post was edited on 6/5/14 at 9:41 pm
Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:56 pm to rtr2013
Good luck with your career. Hopefully reality will set in, but until then enjoy your blissful ignorant youth. 
This post was edited on 6/5/14 at 10:08 pm
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