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re: Best CFB coach that was fired from a previous gig...

Posted on 4/12/16 at 11:52 am to
Posted by Spindicus Lofrus
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Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 11:52 am to
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I think his career at Duke says otherwise


Cool. Only took him a decade of coaching in an easier conference to turn it around.
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 11:53 am to
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Tennessee wanted to hire him. He refused to interview for the job.


The version I heard was that Cutcliffe was asked by Mike Hamilton to take the job and retain all the remaining assistants from Lane Kiffin.

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The issues scuttling the move were said to center on the coaching staff, which Cutcliffe wanted to bring over from Duke to Knoxville. This was something the administration evidently did not want to happen


SB Nation

So instead, you got Derek Dooley.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 11:54 am to
Pete Carroll.
Posted by SlowEasyConfident
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 11:55 am to
Will Muschamp
Posted by lsufball19
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 11:58 am to
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Future two time super bowl mvp quarterback on the roster and we didn't even go to a bowl game his junior season.

that was Eli's sophomore season. to be fair, there were fewer bowls. No one would ever be left out of a bowl today and fewer games played in the regular season. Had Ole Miss added a cupcake to the schedule for a 12 game season, Cutcliff would have gone 8-4 and 4-4 in the SEC, . Not great, but very respectable for Ole Miss at the time. Also, those 4 losses includes a 2 point loss in 7 OT to Arkansas, a 6 point loss to co-west champion @ Auburn, and a loss to top 20 Georgia. It also included a win @ SEC Champion LSU. The onlyt bad loss on that schedule was to State, and yeah that was bad.
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Posted by Bench McElroy
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 12:01 pm to
It's definitely Stallings. Carroll got fired twice from NFL gigs. That doesn't really count.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 12:01 pm to
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The version I heard was that Cutcliffe was asked by Mike Hamilton to take the job and retain all the remaining assistants from Lane Kiffin.

I always thought the story was he didn't want to take the job because of what had happened to Fulmer, a very close friend of his. He had also just taken the job at Duke in 2008.
Posted by Old Sarge
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 12:03 pm to
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Technically, he wasn't fired by Miami. I don't think so anyway.



Quitting right before being fired shouldn't exclude him
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 12:05 pm to
You're correct. Mixed up years.

But the point remains that we didn't have anything other than Eli and a decent oline.

we had no talent on our team in 2004. Outside of a very young Patrick Willis and a future return specialist for the bucs that refused to play anything other than qb for us.
Posted by lsufball19
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 12:05 pm to
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Cool. Only took him a decade of coaching in an easier conference to turn it around.

It took him 6 years, and winning 10 games at Duke isn't exactly something that's easy to do. He's now been to 4 straight bowl games, 1/3 of their bowl games in program history. Duke had never even made b2b bowl games prior to Cutcliff and had only played in 2 bowl games total since 1961.
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 12:05 pm to
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Quitting right before being fired shouldn't exclude him


It does though. If you knew you were going to be fired would you just take it, or would you say "frick you" to the boss and "quit" in front of everyone? Then, would you tell everyone you were going to be fired or that you quit?

We all know what we'd do, so you don't have to answer.
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 12:06 pm to
I linked the quote. He wanted to bring his staff over from Duke, which is pretty much standard procedure everywhere.

But Tennessee's athletic department was broke at the time, and actually running a deficit.

That's why Hamilton wanted the next coach to retain Kiffin's remaining assistants. So the Vols wouldn't have to pay buyouts.
Posted by Othello
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 12:28 pm to
Tuberville, although he clearly needs SEC talent to win 9-10 games a year.
Posted by BowlJackson
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 12:31 pm to
Nick Saban ran like a coward before he could get fired
Posted by GetCocky11
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 12:32 pm to
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The version I heard was that Cutcliffe was asked by Mike Hamilton to take the job and retain all the remaining assistants from Lane Kiffin.


That is a stupid condition to have to agree to. Cutcliffe was right to refuse if that was truly what happened.
Posted by Stillinthegrove
Tupelo, MS
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 12:46 pm to
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that was Eli's sophomore season. to be fair, there were fewer bowls. No one would ever be left out of a bowl today and fewer games played in the regular season. Had Ole Miss added a cupcake to the schedule for a 12 game season, Cutcliff would have gone 8-4 and 4-4 in the SEC, . Not great, but very respectable for Ole Miss at the time. Also, those 4 losses includes a 2 point loss in 7 OT to Arkansas, a 6 point loss to co-west champion @ Auburn, and a loss to top 20 Georgia. It also included a win @ SEC Champion LSU. The onlyt bad loss on that schedule was to State, and yeah that was bad.


Ole Miss went 7-4, Bama went 6-5. Ole Miss beat Bama. Bama goes to a bowl, Ole Miss stays at home.

Yes, I'm still rustled.
Posted by Glorious
Mobile
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 12:47 pm to
Kiffin
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 12:56 pm to
This exactly. Cutcliffe would have been fired in the next couple of years anyway. He did great as ND's qb coach after we canned him. Lasted about a month.
Posted by Wranglerinbama
Gulf Coast of AL
Member since Feb 2016
153 posts
Posted on 4/12/16 at 1:01 pm to
Tuberville at Au. Au admin and fans panicked after the beat down by a Saban lead Bama team in 08.

I think Gus can be successful at Au but it will take resolve from the Au admin to stick with him for the long haul.

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