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Posted on 4/22/15 at 3:48 pm to elposter
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McElroy - SEC Championship as a starter, SECCG MVP, BCS championship as a starter, broke Alabama's single season passing record McCarron - Heisman runner up, Maxwell Award Winner, Johnny Unitas award winner, 2x Second team All-SEC, 2x BCS winner as starter, BCSCG offensive MVP, SEC championship as a starter, broke most Alabama passing records, including McElroy's single season passing record Sims - Second team All-SEC, SEC Championship as a starter, SECCG MVP, broke McCarron's single season passing yard record Alabama's QB development has been fine thus far.
That's fine and dandy but if they are so developed why aren't they in the NFL? The reason is that they were role players injected into a system... They had amazing teammates that made them look good, so their only job was to not screw up instead of win the game..
Posted on 4/22/15 at 3:51 pm to AU4real35
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e role players injected into a system.
The same system you question in OP?
What you are saying is, Bama has no worries this year because an NFL qb is not needed due to superior talent and a great system. Is that correct? I guess Bama fans can now sleep easy.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 3:52 pm to Herman Frisco
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Better question, will au win more than 8 games this year with a first year qb?
Yeah, Gus has no idea what to do with a first year starter at qb...
Posted on 4/22/15 at 3:54 pm to bona fide
Honestly yall will win an average of 9-10 games with your talent... Your recruiting classes are sick.. if yall developed a prime time qb nobody could hang.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 3:55 pm to AU4real35
Which QB has been better developed:
QB A:
QB B:
I'll hang up and listen.
QB A:
QB B:
I'll hang up and listen.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 3:57 pm to AU4real35
quote:And three of them made the NFL. Answer the question.. how many QBs has Gus put in the NFL? Auburn or anywhere else. CFL doesn't count.
their only job was to not screw up instead of win the game..
Posted on 4/22/15 at 3:57 pm to chattabama
For some reason yall wanna compare your qbs to AUs... I'm not comparing our teams. I was just asking about the development of bama's qbs.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 3:59 pm to AU4real35
I would say a first year starting QB who threw for over 3000 yards with a 64.5% completion percentage is a success, wouldn't you?
This post was edited on 4/22/15 at 4:00 pm
Posted on 4/22/15 at 3:59 pm to AU4real35
You're on your own with this one, bro.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 4:00 pm to AU4real35
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win an average of 9-10 games with your talent
based on what? Saban has won an avg or 12 games when a qb he recruited is starting. Apparently the qb development is the reason they get those extra three wins a year.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 4:00 pm to AU4real35
quote:Nobody did hang in '09, '11, '12.
if yall developed a prime time qb nobody could hang.
12-2 in '08, '14.
11-2 in '13.
You are bad at this.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 4:00 pm to chattabama
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I would say a first year starting QB who threw for over 3000 yards with a 64.8% completion percentage is a success, wouldn't you?
I would say that he was throwing to probably one of the best receivers ever to play college football might had something to do with that..
Posted on 4/22/15 at 4:02 pm to TTsTowel
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You're on your own with this one, bro.
I'm good with that..
Posted on 4/22/15 at 4:02 pm to AU4real35
Alabama has no problem developing QBs. Blake Sims finished the season with the highest QB rating in the SEC for full time starters. AJ led the NCAA in QB rating in 2012 and was 8th in 2014. Just because there is no named starter does not mean there is a problem developing QBs. The rumors you hear about Miller are just that, rumors that Finebaum started on his show. The same thing was said earlier this year that he was going to Arkansas and LSU.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 4:03 pm to AU4real35
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That's fine and dandy but if they are so developed why aren't they in the NFL? The reason is that they were role players injected into a system... They had amazing teammates that made them look good, so their only job was to not screw up instead of win the game..
Job is to develop them into winning QBs at Alabama. Mission accomplished and then some. These guys weren't some sort of all world talents that weren't developed. I think you have a misunderstanding about the QBs Alabama has recruited.
McElroy was a 3 star I think but turned into a solid QB for those Alabama teams. He was drafted but was never going to have the physical tools to be an NFL starter. This is not a matter of not developing talent. It's about a clear talent ceiling that was below the NFL line.
McCarron was a 4 star, but not really considered an elite can't miss talent. He did great at Alabama obviously and was drafted. He was injured for his rookie year, but may stick around. We don't know that yet.
Sims was more of an athlete recruit who was developed into a solid college QB. He doesn't have the physical skills to be a QB in the league no matter how much he is developed.
Cornwell was pretty highly rated - still young and we will see what happens.
Barnett was pretty highly rated - hasn't even had his true freshman season. We will see what happens.
Really not seeing your point here.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 4:06 pm to Tidefan44
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Alabama has no problem developing QBs. Blake Sims finished the season with the highest QB rating in the SEC for full time starters. AJ led the NCAA in QB rating in 2012 and was 8th in 2014. Just because there is no named starter does not mean there is a problem developing QBs. The rumors you hear about Miller are just that, rumors that Finebaum started on his show. The same thing was said earlier this year that he was going to Arkansas and LSU.
Y'all can mention Blake sims all you want but take away copper and his stats take a huge hit... All bama needs is a game manager, so saban sets up a system for them not to fail.. Instead of setting up a system for them to progress..
Posted on 4/22/15 at 4:07 pm to AU4real35
Just wondering why a highly touted recruit would pick Bama..
Well, hell, then why would a highly rated defensive recruit choose AU?
Well, hell, then why would a highly rated defensive recruit choose AU?
Posted on 4/22/15 at 4:08 pm to AU4real35
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All bama needs is a game manager, so saban sets up a system for them not to fail.. Instead of setting up a system for them to progress..
that is some great insight, how did that get past all other CFB fans the last several years.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 4:09 pm to AU4real35
I feel like you are stuggling to make your point here. Why don't we take a different approach. Here is your question:
Why don't you tell us which QB or QBs specifically you are talking about that Alabama failed to develop appropriately. Maybe we can focus this debate a bit that way.
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Why are y'all having such a problem developing these highly recruited qbs?
Why don't you tell us which QB or QBs specifically you are talking about that Alabama failed to develop appropriately. Maybe we can focus this debate a bit that way.
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