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Posted on 11/15/11 at 11:28 am to Funky Tide 8
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We beat the shite out of yall, therefore yall should not jump us if both win out, EVER. Simple as that piggy boy.
Fine. LSU beat Bama on Bama's home field, therefore Bama should not jump LSU. In this hypothetical, Arkansas wins @ LSU, so LSU would not deserve to stay ranked ahead of Arkansas. Looks like we have a conundrum doesn't it?
Posted on 11/15/11 at 11:33 am to Jon Ham
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Fine. LSU beat Bama on Bama's home field, therefore Bama should not jump LSU.
That is fine, but it will still probably happen. Still has nothing to do with Arkansas, because Arkansas aint jumping Bama, fool. Sorry Charlie.
Posted on 11/15/11 at 11:38 am to BRgetthenet
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Oh, sorry daddy.
I'll clean the shite off my glasses.
You guys are still mad
Posted on 11/15/11 at 11:40 am to Jon Ham
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a win at home over an injury depleted Arkansas team that was not playing at the level that it is now.
blame your coaches for not having r-kansas prepared.
Posted on 11/15/11 at 11:40 am to Jon Ham
Looks like we have a conundrum doesn't it?
Nope. Everyone knows the REC controls the media, the SEC, the BCS, and NCAA. Bama has this in the bag.
Nope. Everyone knows the REC controls the media, the SEC, the BCS, and NCAA. Bama has this in the bag.
Posted on 11/15/11 at 11:42 am to BRgetthenet
"An injury depleted Arkansas team"
That was the fourth week of the season...if your bitch arse team cannot make it to week four of the season without being "Injury depleted" then you need a new strength and conditioning coach.
That was the fourth week of the season...if your bitch arse team cannot make it to week four of the season without being "Injury depleted" then you need a new strength and conditioning coach.
This post was edited on 11/15/11 at 11:43 am
Posted on 11/15/11 at 11:44 am to Jon Ham
Arkansas has struggled to beat several inferior teams. Alabama has dominated every team they have played (including Arkansas, stop crying about your injuries blah, blah, you got curb stomped) except LSU which was a pretty evenly played game . Arkansas has not looked anything like a dominant team most of the year like LSU and Alabama have. Arkansas isn't in the discussion unless Alabama loses to Auburn. Sorry.
Posted on 11/15/11 at 11:45 am to BRgetthenet
Hogs need not apply. 38-14
Posted on 11/15/11 at 11:46 am to elposter
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Arkansas has not looked anything like a dominant team most of the year like LSU and Alabama have.
Arkansas: 9-1 SEC team
Alabama: 9-1 SEC team
Posted on 11/15/11 at 11:48 am to BRgetthenet
Jon Ham, if thats how it works out thats just the way it is. You (Arky) should have took care of business when you had the chance, same as Bama. Now both of us (Bama & Arky) are looking for help.
And LSU is sitting back witt a shite eating grin on there face.
And LSU is sitting back witt a shite eating grin on there face.
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Posted on 11/15/11 at 11:52 am to Jon Ham
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Arkansas: 9-1 SEC team
Alabama: 9-1 SEC team
No shite, that's what this discussion is about. You have to distinguish teams with even records. It's your thread, pay attention. How do you do that? You have to look a little deeper and then you see that Arkansas got completely blown off the field against Alabama. We aren't talking about a closely played game that got out of hand. We are talking about one team completely embarrassing the other. Arkanas also needed a minor miracle to beat Vanderbilt and have needed big time comebacks to escape with victories over a mediocre Texas A&M team and a AWFUL Ole Miss team. I'm not even sure what other mediocre teams Arkansas has stuggled with. You don't see this when you look at LSU or Alabama. That is why Arkansas isn't in this discussion.
Posted on 11/15/11 at 11:59 am to ThaKaptin
In the end Jon it will be up to the voters because if they leave LSU above Arkansas, LSU has the tiebreaker, if Arkansas and Bama jumps LSU they drop out and the top 2 goes to the head 2 head which belongs to Bama over Arkansas.
Penn St has a MUCH better D than aTm or Arkansas and Bama went TO Happy Valley and beat them by 15, their other loss was by 3 this past weekend to Nebraska, a team that runs a spread offense and was held to 17 points
Penn St has a MUCH better D than aTm or Arkansas and Bama went TO Happy Valley and beat them by 15, their other loss was by 3 this past weekend to Nebraska, a team that runs a spread offense and was held to 17 points
Posted on 11/15/11 at 12:01 pm to DoubleDown
Double Down, you are an absolute moron. A loss at home ends your place in the discussion. STFU and move on.
Posted on 11/15/11 at 12:09 pm to Jon Ham
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Jon Ham
You are better than this, dude. Bama destroyed Arky. The game wasn't close. You know that. Your team has shown nothing since then that would make anyone think the game would be close today.
LSU beat Bama, so they should go to the SEC championship game. IF Arky somehow wins that game then we'll see what happens b/t if it is Bama or LSU that goes, but it won't be Arky. You lost a game by 24 points. Bama hasn't been outscored by 24 points in the last 3 years combined, but you managed it in one game. Come on man. You know better.
Posted on 11/15/11 at 12:10 pm to Jon Ham
SEC tiebreaker rule:
Three or more-team procedure (assuming LSU loses to Arkansas)
(Once the tie has been reduced to two teams, go to the two-team tie-breaker format.)
*Combined head-to-head record among the tied teams. LSU 1-1, Alabama 1-1, Arkansas 1-1*Record of the tied teams within the division. Same records assuming Arkansas and Alabama win out
*Head-to-head competition vs. the team within the division with the best overall (divisional and non-divisional) Conference record and proceeding through the division. Multiple ties within the division will be broken from first to last. Same record if Arkansas and Alabama win out
*Overall record vs. non-division teams. All three teams are undefeated vs the East*Combined record vs. all common non-divisional teams. Same record if Arkansas and Bama wins out
*Record vs. common non-divisional team with the best overall Conference (divisional and non-divisional) record and proceeding through other common non-divisional teams based on their order of finish within their division.
The tied team with the highest ranking in the Bowl Championship Series Standings following the last weekend of regular-season games shall be the divisional representative in the SEC Championship Game, unless the second of the tied teams is ranked within five-or-fewer places of the highest ranked tied team. In this case, the head-to-head results of the top two ranked tied teams shall determine the representative in the SEC Championship Game.
BCS standing will decide the West and I don't expect LSU to drop far if they loss to Arkansas so they win the head to head vs Bama. LSU wins the west. Everything is in LSU favor to make it to the NC game.
Three or more-team procedure (assuming LSU loses to Arkansas)
(Once the tie has been reduced to two teams, go to the two-team tie-breaker format.)
*Combined head-to-head record among the tied teams. LSU 1-1, Alabama 1-1, Arkansas 1-1*Record of the tied teams within the division. Same records assuming Arkansas and Alabama win out
*Head-to-head competition vs. the team within the division with the best overall (divisional and non-divisional) Conference record and proceeding through the division. Multiple ties within the division will be broken from first to last. Same record if Arkansas and Alabama win out
*Overall record vs. non-division teams. All three teams are undefeated vs the East*Combined record vs. all common non-divisional teams. Same record if Arkansas and Bama wins out
*Record vs. common non-divisional team with the best overall Conference (divisional and non-divisional) record and proceeding through other common non-divisional teams based on their order of finish within their division.
The tied team with the highest ranking in the Bowl Championship Series Standings following the last weekend of regular-season games shall be the divisional representative in the SEC Championship Game, unless the second of the tied teams is ranked within five-or-fewer places of the highest ranked tied team. In this case, the head-to-head results of the top two ranked tied teams shall determine the representative in the SEC Championship Game.
BCS standing will decide the West and I don't expect LSU to drop far if they loss to Arkansas so they win the head to head vs Bama. LSU wins the west. Everything is in LSU favor to make it to the NC game.
Posted on 11/15/11 at 12:10 pm to elposter
If one were to look at things completely objectively and looked at each team's resume without considering the timing of the losses, you would have to say that LSU has the most impressive resume even if they would lose to Arkansas.
LSU would be 2-1 against the BCS top 6 and Bama and Arkansas would be 1-1. Not only has LSU beaten #3 Bama and #4 Oregon, it beat both away from home as an underdog to both. LSU beat WVU on the road by 4 TDs. LSU's performances against Oregon and WVU were probably better than both Bama's and Arkansas's wins over Penn State and A&M, respectively.
Since you can't really say who would be the best based on conference play if they are tied and beat each other, the overall resume would have to come into play, and I think that should favor LSU.
Having said that, I think the timing of an LSU loss to Arkansas would cost the Tigers as the national media seems to want to give Bama and Oregon a mulligan, but LSU would be out of all consideration with a loss.
LSU would be 2-1 against the BCS top 6 and Bama and Arkansas would be 1-1. Not only has LSU beaten #3 Bama and #4 Oregon, it beat both away from home as an underdog to both. LSU beat WVU on the road by 4 TDs. LSU's performances against Oregon and WVU were probably better than both Bama's and Arkansas's wins over Penn State and A&M, respectively.
Since you can't really say who would be the best based on conference play if they are tied and beat each other, the overall resume would have to come into play, and I think that should favor LSU.
Having said that, I think the timing of an LSU loss to Arkansas would cost the Tigers as the national media seems to want to give Bama and Oregon a mulligan, but LSU would be out of all consideration with a loss.
Posted on 11/15/11 at 12:22 pm to Jon Ham
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Jon Ham
I had such high hopes for you when you first arrived. What happened?
Posted on 11/15/11 at 12:29 pm to augrad00
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Everything is in LSU favor to make it to the NC game.
Unless yall lose to Arky...
Posted on 11/15/11 at 12:32 pm to bamasgot13
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The game wasn't close. You know that.
You're right, the game wasn't close, and if it were just b/w Bama and Arkansas, Bama would certainly deserve to go to Atlanta. But if Arkansas beats LSU, we will be in a 3 way tie and Bama's big win over Arkansas is just one factor to consider.
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Your team has shown nothing since then that would make anyone think the game would be close today.
I disagree.
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