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re: Auburn Softball - WHAT THE ACTUAL SH*T?

Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:33 am to
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:33 am to
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What those girls did would be like me getting stuff off of your phone.....

ETA and then using it against you.

It's illegal



As I said in other threads, whether it is a crime depends entirely on how they got access to the messages.

From the Auburn AD's standpoint, there isn't a good answer.

Option A is that she left an unlocked phone unattended in a public place. In that case, there's not going to be a crime on the part of the girls but you've got a high level AD employee telling them to get rid of evidence proving violations of University policy and possible Title IX violations.

Option B is that they somehow took the device and a gained access in a way that could be criminal. In that case, the high level AD employee is not only ignoring the previously mentioned activity she's also directing the coverup of criminal activity and destroying evidence.

Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:35 am to
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Option A is that she left an unlocked phone unattended in a public place. In that case, there's not going to be a crime on the part of the girls but you've got a high level AD employee telling them to get rid of evidence proving violations of University policy and possible Title IX violations.


Read my last post on page 1. It is a crime.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:36 am to
You should probably read your link. None of the laws they mention cover this situation.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:37 am to
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You should probably read your link. None of the laws they mention cover this situation.


This is EXACTLY the situation. The girls took a screenshot of texts, from off of the girls phone who was having an affair with the coach, and turned her in. They wanted her off of the team.

ETA and the AAD told them to delete the the texts because it was against the law how they got them.
This post was edited on 8/28/17 at 11:38 am
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
12227 posts
Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:37 am to
The actions of the A Dept., the coach, the player and the team mates were all wrong.
The most reprehensible actions were by the AD trying to destroy evidence by use of threats.
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29450 posts
Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:38 am to
quote:

What those girls did would be like me getting stuff off of your phone.....

ETA and then using it against you.

It's illegal

Not if you're the government.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
20495 posts
Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:39 am to
quote:

That has to be illegal.




It's not.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:39 am to
You bama fans can't read for shite.


ETA so you are saying I can pick up your phone, if you leave it on a table, and take screenshots of your texts......and that isn't against the law?
This post was edited on 8/28/17 at 11:41 am
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
20495 posts
Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:42 am to
quote:

This is EXACTLY the situation


It's not.

The law makes it illegal to disseminate the pictures of the texts. It's not illegal to take them.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:43 am to
They were using them against her. That is blackmail.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:44 am to
We'll see how it pans out. I've got almost 20 years working for a place that prosecutes these cases. I'll take that experience over a Quora link.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
20495 posts
Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:45 am to
Am I the only person in here bothered by MrAUTigers defending not only the affair of an assistant coach with a subordinate AND his sexual harassment of other players by deflecting attention onto innocent girls?
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Atlanta GA - ITP
Member since Sep 2012
24933 posts
Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:47 am to
The big money thrown around in softball has corrupted Auburn fans.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:47 am to
I'm not defending him. He was fired, and rightly so. He broke no laws. He broke no NCAA rules. The players who took screenshots off of the phone were the ones who broke the law. They were told to delete them. The texts weren't deleted so the coach could keep his job. They were deleted to protect the girls who broke the law.........unknowingly
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
20495 posts
Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:48 am to
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They were using them against her.


They were using them against Corey, not the player. And blackmail involves keeping the affair secret in exchange for monetary or other consideration.

They were attempting to expose the affair. If they distributed the images they took, then yes, they might possibly have broken a law, but it wasn't blackmail.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
20495 posts
Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:48 am to
quote:

They were using them against her.


They were using them against Corey, not the player. And blackmail involves keeping the affair secret in exchange for monetary or other consideration.

They were attempting to expose the affair. If they distributed the images they took, then yes, they might possibly have broken a law, but it wasn't blackmail.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:50 am to
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They were attempting to expose the affair. If they distributed the images they took, then yes, they might possibly have broken a law, but it wasn't blackmail.



Well then how did anybody in the Auburn AD find out what was going on if the images weren't used?
This post was edited on 8/28/17 at 11:50 am
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:54 am to
You can't honestly believe that I have the right to go through your phone, take screenshots of your texts, just because you left it on the table in a restaurant.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:54 am to
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Well then how did anybody in the Auburn AD find out what was going on if the images weren't used?



That's not criminal extortion. That's reporting serious violations of university policy to the proper authorities.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:55 am to
You can't have it both ways.

The means by which they got the info was against the law.

The coach was fired for breaking University policy. He broke no laws or NCAA rules.
This post was edited on 8/28/17 at 11:57 am
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