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re: Auburn releases statement on failed drug test:

Posted on 4/5/13 at 8:18 am to
Posted by AUtigR24
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Posted on 4/5/13 at 8:18 am to
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By the way, when did Auburn start answering allegations? It used to be no comment. Something is different this time around.


This is different, AU actually worked with ESPN on the story and knew it was coming out. Unfortunately ESPN left out a lot of info that painted a different picture. AU knew the story was coming out and was ready for it. Not to mention spice wasn't banned by the NCAA so we can comment freely
This post was edited on 4/5/13 at 8:28 am
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22371 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 8:23 am to
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Sure seems that way. Nice to actually hear them address things rather than "no comment".


the reason is this isn't an NCAA matter... this story on spice occured prior to the NCAA placing it on their banned substances list.

AU won't comment on the other baseless accusations b/c there's the potential for an NCAA investigation... schools are barred from commenting until the investigation is over.
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
51836 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 8:32 am to
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Unfortunately ESPN left out a lot of info that painted a different picture.
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Well, consider me fricking shocked.
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 8:52 am to
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el oh el no. His uncle said his grades where never in question.



Well, if teachers were changing them when they are bad, then the grades are never in question. It's a forgone conclusion that they will be a passing grade.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15715 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 9:20 am to
I honestly didn't find the ESPN story damning to Auburn at all. What people have to do is put yourself in the 2010 mindset. At that time if you weren't a college student or someone working in public safety (EMS or LE), odds are good you didn't even know spice existed. I'm a volunteer EMT and work for a LE and the first time I heard of it was around 2006 (it was called K2 then).

Everybody was behind the curve. In Auburn's case, the abuse resulted in some very high profile incidents but nobody should think their programs were somehow different.

You had a 'new' drug with unpredictable effects that was legal and undetectable. Throw in just a couple of bad apples (which exist in every program) and you've got a recipe for disaster at some program and it happened to be Auburn.

The amazing thing to me is that it didn't happen in more places.



Posted by piggidyphish
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2009
18880 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 9:24 am to
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Well, if teachers were changing them when they are bad, then the grades are never in question. It's a forgone conclusion that they will be a passing grade


So you've just accepted that statement about dyer's grades as conclusory and are unwilling to look at refutable evidence?

Whats the point of talking about it then?
This post was edited on 4/5/13 at 9:26 am
Posted by Indfanfromcol
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
14734 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 10:03 am to
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Well, if teachers were changing them when they are bad, then the grades are never in question. It's a forgone conclusion that they will be a passing grade.




While this could be true, it could never be proven it was done on an unfair basis or was unfair enough to the point that it should be called to attention.

Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
51836 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 10:09 am to
I actually kind of like this response from Jay Jacobs for once. Basically, here is what we told them about our practices...here is what they said in the article...form your own opinion on why they didn't frame the whole picture. Kind of refreshing.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30264 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 10:14 am to
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I actually kind of like this response from Jay Jacobs for once. Basically, here is what we told them about our practices...here is what they said in the article...form your own opinion on why they didn't frame the whole picture. Kind of refreshing.
+1 for JJ.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 10:18 am to
Aw heck, lets give him another few years.
Posted by UKWildcatsFAN
Bowling Green
Member since Sep 2011
5690 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 10:20 am to
Wow, espn is trying to go all yahoo sports. I feel sorry for auburn. Yall have had a shite storm since 2010. Alabama has won 3 National championships, why not investigate them? I'm sure if auburn was smoking spice in 2010 so was Alabama.
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
51836 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 10:22 am to
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Aw heck, lets give him another few years.


Pump those breaks
Posted by jatebe
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Member since Oct 2008
18284 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 10:22 am to
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You had a 'new' drug with unpredictable effects that was legal and undetectable


Synthetic marijuana became ILLEGAL in Alabama July 1, 2010, before the 2010 football season.
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On April 22, 2010, the Alabama Legislature passed HB697, making it illegal to possess chemical compounds, HU-210, JWH-018, JWH-073 and salvia divinorum or salvinorum A. Former state Rep. James Gordon was among the sponsors of the bill, which became effective which became effective July 1, 2010.


LINK
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54177 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 10:24 am to
Reported on the radio that it wasn't illegal until October 2011.
This post was edited on 4/5/13 at 10:26 am
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 4/5/13 at 10:24 am to
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I'm sure if auburn was smoking spice in 2010 so was Alabama.


It really doesnt matter anyways, who was smoking spice at that time. Now if they would like to focus on actual issues that matter, like spice after aug 2011, thats another story
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 4/5/13 at 10:25 am to
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jatebe


Quite the investigator arent you? please do tell more.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 4/5/13 at 10:27 am to
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Reported on the radio that it wasn't illegal until October 2011.


october 24 2011

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The synthetic marijuana substances named in the emergency ban will be placed on the list of Alabama controlled substances effective Oct. 24.


first link in a search
This post was edited on 4/5/13 at 10:29 am
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54177 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 10:27 am to
LINK

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In October 2011, the state of Alabama followed suit when Dr. Donald Williamson, state health officer, signed an emergency order making the possession or sale of chemical compounds typically found in synthetic marijuana substances unlawful.


LINK

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On Monday, the Huntsville police department and other Madison County law officers will begin enforcing Alabama's new law passed Oct. 14 that bans synthetic marijuana.
This post was edited on 4/5/13 at 10:29 am
Posted by wartiger2004
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Member since Aug 2011
17828 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 10:28 am to
He did not read the part where manufacturers changed the ingredients to get around the spice laws as they were written.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
34905 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 10:30 am to
Damn these facts.
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