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re: Auburn releases statement on failed drug test:

Posted on 4/4/13 at 10:26 pm to
Posted by boddagetta
Moulton
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Posted on 4/4/13 at 10:26 pm to
Ok I get it
Posted by flyAU
Scottsdale
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 4/4/13 at 10:28 pm to
I either get it or I am an idiot.


possibly both.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 4/4/13 at 10:29 pm to
hook, line, and sinker
Posted by Choctaw Hog
Member since Nov 2006
7586 posts
Posted on 4/4/13 at 10:29 pm to
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Right. Who was OJ Simpson's wife on 6-12-94?


Damn. Why didn't you just come out and correct me in stating he killed his ex-wife? Doesn’t change the point I was making.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54177 posts
Posted on 4/4/13 at 10:31 pm to
Because this was more fun for me.

Also, details and accuracy matter. Which is kind of the theme for me today.
Posted by BrerTiger
Valley of the Long Grey Cloud
Member since Sep 2011
21506 posts
Posted on 4/4/13 at 10:31 pm to
You're an Arkansas fan.

Your fanbase teaches doctorate level courses in fishery management.

Just go with the flow, brah.
Posted by Choctaw Hog
Member since Nov 2006
7586 posts
Posted on 4/4/13 at 10:35 pm to
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Because this was more fun for me. Also, details and accuracy matter. Which is kind of the theme for me today.


My point was that O.J Simpson was found "not guilty” of murder. He wasn’t found innocent and it’s immaterial who he killed. The point is that he got away with murder so far but his time is coming.
This post was edited on 4/4/13 at 10:38 pm
Posted by Choctaw Hog
Member since Nov 2006
7586 posts
Posted on 4/4/13 at 10:36 pm to
quote:

You're an Arkansas fan. Your fanbase teaches doctorate level courses in fishery management. Just go with the flow, brah.


I do like to fish, for trout, but that's not my profession.
Posted by BrerTiger
Valley of the Long Grey Cloud
Member since Sep 2011
21506 posts
Posted on 4/4/13 at 10:37 pm to
I get it.

God will deal with Auburn and OJ.

Great point.

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
Posted by BrerTiger
Valley of the Long Grey Cloud
Member since Sep 2011
21506 posts
Posted on 4/4/13 at 10:38 pm to
Are you channeling Ice Cold now?

Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54177 posts
Posted on 4/4/13 at 10:40 pm to
Your point was obvious. It has been recycled ad naseum. Much like the smoke and fire saying, it sounds nice but has little real meaning or value aside from being an over used quip for those who lack substance behind there hopes of demise for AU.
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/4/13 at 11:00 pm to
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Auburn Athletics began testing for synthetic marijuana three days after our testing company made a test available. A test became available on Jan. 24, 2011, and Auburn added the test to its panel on Jan. 27, 2011.
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Since our drug testing policy was amended to include synthetic marijuana as a banned substance, there have been three positive tests for the drug out of more than 2,500 drug tests administered. Those three individuals are no longer on Auburn Athletics rosters.
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Within the first few months of testing, 3 percent of our student-athletes tested positive for synthetic marijuana.
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The Auburn Drug Testing/Drug Education Advisory Committee recommended to the Committee on Intercollegiate Athletics that synthetic marijuana be added to the Auburn Athletics drug testing policy on March 14, 2011. The policy change was adopted that day.
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Penalties for the use of synthetic marijuana were put into place for the next academic year beginning in August of 2011. Since it became a banned substance under the drug testing policy, only three student-athletes have tested positive for synthetic marijuana out of more than 2,500 tests administered.
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I hope the facts clear up any misconceptions about drug use among our student-athletes. It is important for you to know that Auburn Athletics conducts approximately 1,500 drug tests each academic year. Less than one percent of our student-athletes test positive for illegal substances.
How do you go from 3% of athletes testing positive in the first few months to only 3 positive tests out of more than 2,500 tests administered? Did Auburn conduct only 33 tests with 1 positive result, 67 tests with 2 positives, or 100 tests with 3 positives? Having zero positives from the next 2,400 tests is pretty amazing given the claims made by the former players, and the numbers of phone calls Auburn claims it made to parents of players. Why the calls if there were no positive tests?

One more question, why did Auburn wait until the start of the next academic year to impose penalties for synthetic marijuana use?
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54177 posts
Posted on 4/4/13 at 11:09 pm to
You need to read more carefully. I think you are missing some slight but significant differences in language regarding the timing of when certain things happened.
Posted by Bham4Tide
In a Van down by the River
Member since Feb 2011
22092 posts
Posted on 4/4/13 at 11:19 pm to
This whole thing does not make any sense. Either ESPN is lying or Auburn is lying. Strange.
Posted by Bham4Tide
In a Van down by the River
Member since Feb 2011
22092 posts
Posted on 4/4/13 at 11:30 pm to
By the way, when did Auburn start answering allegations? It used to be no comment. Something is different this time around.
Posted by flyAU
Scottsdale
Member since Dec 2010
24854 posts
Posted on 4/4/13 at 11:31 pm to
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By the way, when did Auburn start answering allegations? It used to be no comment. Something is different this time around.



Sure seems that way. Nice to actually hear them address things rather than "no comment".
Posted by The Nino
Member since Jan 2010
21521 posts
Posted on 4/4/13 at 11:32 pm to
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How do you go from 3% of athletes testing positive in the first few months to only 3 positive tests out of more than 2,500 tests administered? Did Auburn conduct only 33 tests with 1 positive result, 67 tests with 2 positives, or 100 tests with 3 positives? Having zero positives from the next 2,400 tests is pretty amazing
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Within the first few months of testing (Jan. 27, 2011 to March 14, 2011), 3 percent of our student-athletes tested positive for synthetic marijuana.

Since our drug testing policy was amended to include synthetic marijuana as a banned substance (March 14, 2011 to now), there have been three positive tests for the drug out of more than 2,500 drug tests administered. Those three individuals are no longer on Auburn Athletics rosters.


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and the numbers of phone calls Auburn claims it made to parents of players. Why the calls if there were no positive tests?

Because there were admittedly positive tests.

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One more question, why did Auburn wait until the start of the next academic year to impose penalties for synthetic marijuana use?


I don't think new student policies can be enforced until the start of a new semester. It would be like changing stipulations in a current contract while the contract is in use. March 14th would be in the middle of the spring semester, enforcement started at the beginning of the next fall semester.
Posted by The Nino
Member since Jan 2010
21521 posts
Posted on 4/4/13 at 11:36 pm to
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Sure seems that way. Nice to actually hear them address things rather than "no comment".

JJ is trying the "hero or zero" technique now. Since he's already viewed as a zero, he has very little to lose. I guess we could say JJ is all in
Posted by HawgAlude
Member since Jul 2008
5658 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 12:32 am to
Lets examine this God in football thing,

Michael Dyer got busted with his fat arse girlfriend a gun and some weed on I40 in good ole Arkansas. Gus could not cover that up since we are in Arkansas and had to kick Dyer off the team. Dyer ended up in Central Arkansas playing football at a community college. Chit does not get covered up in Arkansas and players and coaches (see Petrino) must pay the penalty. Yet God does not award Arkansas with BCS victories and National Championships.

Auburn on the other hand has a puppet coach, pays players, changes grades, smokes weed and generally lets the thugs be thugs and get a National Championship?

Yep Arkansas Razorback fans are a rational all knowing bunch.
Posted by boddagetta
Moulton
Member since Mar 2011
9999 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 12:36 am to
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