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re: Auburn/Lee Cty DA seeking $1.042 million from Updyke

Posted on 5/31/13 at 10:34 pm to
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 5/31/13 at 10:34 pm to
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Just saying I feel like their time could be spent in much better ways than bringing this case against him when he will clearly only be able to pay a very small fraction of whatever the settlement ends up being.


While I somewhat agree, this is not a new case, it is restitution for the crime and part of the punishment. As well as status quo for a lot of crimes. Just because they are seeking the amount doesn't mean they think it is repayable. Just a means of further punishment, that is reasonable for the crime.

For example, what's the point of convicting someone to 500 years of prison?
This post was edited on 5/31/13 at 10:37 pm
Posted by BIG DADDY 73
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Posted on 5/31/13 at 10:36 pm to
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lives off food stamps the rest of his pathetic life



We don't need anymore people doing that. There are too many doing it now.
Posted by Warfarer
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Posted on 5/31/13 at 10:40 pm to
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His dumb arse has been sentenced already, that is paying for his crime.



so becoming a cult hero to a large percentage of a fanbase and doing a little time in jail for causing nearly a million dollars in damage is paying for his crime?
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
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Posted on 5/31/13 at 10:41 pm to
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We don't need anymore people doing that. There are too many doing it now.


Meh. Like it's always said, the state of Alabama is 70% crimson tide...y'all foot the majority of the bill.
Posted by BIG DADDY 73
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Posted on 5/31/13 at 10:42 pm to
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so becoming a cult hero to a large percentage of a fanbase


This is not a crime.


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doing a little time in jail for causing nearly a million dollars in damage is paying for his crime?



The JUDGE thought so.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 5/31/13 at 10:43 pm to
So you don't believe in restitution? I hope you are never the victim of a crime.
Posted by BIG DADDY 73
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Posted on 5/31/13 at 10:44 pm to
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Meh. Like it's always said, the state of Alabama is 70% crimson tide...y'all foot the majority of the bill.



I don't think its BAMA or Auburn fans necessarily, or exclusively FWIW IMO.
Posted by BIG DADDY 73
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Posted on 5/31/13 at 10:47 pm to
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I hope you are never the victim of a crime.




I hope you aren't either.
Posted by BIG DADDY 73
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Posted on 5/31/13 at 10:49 pm to
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So you don't believe in restitution?



My point is they are going to spend more money on this than they will ever get out of him. I am not flaming yall or taking up for him.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 5/31/13 at 10:52 pm to
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My point is they are going to spend more money on this than they will ever get out of him


Agreed, but what's the difference between 100k and 1 million to him? Nothing, just like a 500 year prison sentence. As I alluded to, it's all apart of the process, this is the restitution portion. Just status quo as far as the work.

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I am not flaming yall or taking up for him.


Your quoting in this thread and history suggest otherwise fwiw.
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
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Posted on 5/31/13 at 10:54 pm to
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So you don't believe in restitution? I hope you are never the victim of a crime.



This is the point I can't understand. So many crimson tide fans are quick to say Harvey and the tea bagger don't represent us, but will argue incessantly about how unfairly the two are being prosecuted. If an AU fan or anyone else I know for that matter does something so stupid, it'll be a cold day in hell when I say "he doesn't represent me but you're being too hard on him".
Posted by CheeseburgerEddie
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Posted on 5/31/13 at 10:57 pm to
I think it is a little more like going back and sentencing a guy to 200 more years of prison who already has 500. He deserves to be punished to the fullest extent of the law but he won't be able to pay and if it was my decision I wouldn't waste the time and resources. Maybe I don't understand the legal system that in depth so perhaps this is a quick process, I never claimed to be a lawyer.

I just think at this point it would be best for both universities for everyone to move on. And to whoever said he had a cult following from the majority of the fans, you are an idiot if you actually believe that.
This post was edited on 5/31/13 at 10:58 pm
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 5/31/13 at 10:58 pm to
Many of them use it to get a rise or flame out of us, some actually believe it and are blinded by the crimson glasses. They think this as out of the ordinary as far as persecution, but its status quo.
Posted by Swoopin
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Posted on 5/31/13 at 10:58 pm to
I notice that too. The story would die on these boards if people didn't subtly cry foul at him getting his
Posted by BIG DADDY 73
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Posted on 5/31/13 at 11:01 pm to
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history suggest otherwise fwiw


Has nothing to do with what we are discussing tonight.

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Your quoting in this thread


My quoting in this thread hasn't been flaming or defending him. I just think its going to cost a lot with little to no return.. It doesn't cost more money to add 400 more years onto a 100 year sentence, but lawyers and court processes cost money.
Posted by BIG DADDY 73
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Posted on 5/31/13 at 11:03 pm to
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argue incessantly about how unfairly the two are being prosecuted



I never said unfairly, I just said its a waste of money.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 5/31/13 at 11:03 pm to
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I think it is a little more like going back and sentencing a guy to 200 more years of prison who already has 500


This isn't going back, it's the restitution portion.

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but he won't be able to pay and if it was my decision I wouldn't waste the time and resources.


Which is status quo for many crimes. Do you think Bernie madoff is going to be able to repay the billions from prison while making license plates? No, but they need to attach a value, which they have done. And they have added the monetary punishment portion according to the law. Doesn't mean that is what the judgement will be either. But saying there is extra work involved is laughable, as its apart of the process.

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I just think at this point it would be best for both universities for everyone to move on


Agreed, but this not the university, this is the criminal justice system. Obviously it's going to be in the media until its resolved to its entirety.
Posted by CheeseburgerEddie
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Posted on 5/31/13 at 11:05 pm to
Everything in every thread gets blown out of proportion by some of the idiots from each fanbase. I do feel if thebagger spends more than a few months of his 2 year term in jail that it was probably a little too harsh. And the thread title says Auburn AD suing so to me that sounds like a whole separate case and work which I don't think is worth pursuing because Updyke can't pay anything really. If it is a simple thing and doesn't require a lot of time and money then by all means Updyke deserves whatever comes from this (I do feel sorry for him because how sad his life is and was)
This post was edited on 5/31/13 at 11:06 pm
Posted by BIG DADDY 73
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Posted on 5/31/13 at 11:05 pm to
Good night fellas, Big Daddy has an early tee time in the morning.
Posted by CheeseburgerEddie
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Posted on 5/31/13 at 11:07 pm to
As I said I was basing my comments off of thread title which makes it seems like AD is bringing a civil suit.
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