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re: Auburn hiring Derek Mason as DC

Posted on 1/7/21 at 8:32 am to
Posted by Rhino5
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Posted on 1/7/21 at 8:32 am to
Would be happy with Mason as DC. Good guy and knows the SEC landscape.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
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Posted on 1/7/21 at 8:39 am to
Steele made his money with the average teams in the SEC. Against the better teams, AU had to lean on the Offense to win. Steele was overrated , even among Auburn circles.
Posted by AUDevil
Somewhere
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Posted on 1/7/21 at 8:47 am to
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worked with Pelini


And Ellis Johnson
Posted by AUDevil
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Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 1/7/21 at 8:48 am to
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Steele made his money with the average teams in the SEC. Against the better teams, AU had to lean on the Offense to win. Steele was overrated , even among Auburn circles.


That has more to do with the current nature of college football. Great offense beats great defense these days.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/7/21 at 8:57 am to
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like the hire and have always been impressed with Mason. He had a Couple good years at Vandy despite having an impossible job and was lights out at Stanford.


Great hire.
The players will run through a brick wall for him and he can flat out coach.

I might even expect a bump in recruiting defensively for 2023 class.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 1/7/21 at 8:57 am to
Seems like a solid hire to me
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
11670 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 9:00 am to
Sounds like YellaFella and his group are losing their sideline passes at the barn.

A solid hire if Mason gets the gig.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 9:00 am to
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That has more to do with the current nature of college football. Great offense beats great defense these days.


That was the problem, he never adjusted. He made average QBs look good and good QBs look great. He gave up many 3rd and long First Downs due to his stubbornness.Loved to blitz.
Posted by bamameister
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Member since May 2016
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Posted on 1/7/21 at 9:01 am to
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Steele made his money with the average teams in the SEC. Against the better teams, AU had to lean on the Offense to win. Steele was overrated , even among Auburn circles.



The offense is why Gus was hired.

As I recall Kevin did alright against Bama and Georgia in 2017 and Bama again in 2019 and I still recall that 3-1-7 hybrid look that Steele broke out against LSU in BR in 2019. Burrows was struggling with his keys all night. Obviously, LSU had even less success with Kevin's defense this season. He has a distinct imagination against spread attacks and keeps it simple enough to communicate and execute. No easy feat, I was impressed anyway.
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
22163 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 9:02 am to
I think Mason would be a good hire. Better than Bobo as the OC for sure
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 9:03 am to
Great hire. Too bad we didn’t get him to replace Grantham.
Posted by Point Man 10
Florida
Member since Dec 2020
299 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 9:08 am to
Auburn is so fricking terrible at everything they do
Posted by 1badboy
In space
Member since Jul 2014
8103 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 9:13 am to
I agree !!!
Posted by tattoo
Fantasy Island
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 1/7/21 at 9:20 am to
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Steele made his money with the average teams in the SEC. Against the better teams, AU had to lean on the Offense to win. Steele was overrated , even among Auburn circles.
Who doesn't have more trouble with elite offenses than bad->good ones ? Everyone does. Saban's best defenses, including 2011 and 2016, had trouble with almost all great passing offenses. They just didn't play many in the SEC until the last 5 years or so.

Steele was a good DC, though probably a tad overrated. He benefitted greatly from Muschamp's effect. Like everyone else though, he was dependent upon his personnel.

Mason is probably a good hire, but it is frankly unknown now. The world is completely different than when he was last a DC; but it's not like he was out of college football, he was a HC in the SEC. He's certainly worth a try.
This post was edited on 1/7/21 at 9:22 am
Posted by Bham4Tide
In a Van down by the River
Member since Feb 2011
22092 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 9:28 am to
Mason is a good hire but I think Steele is a better DC.

Ya gotta expect some drop off from the normal solid D.
Posted by blzr
MB
Member since Mar 2011
30104 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 9:29 am to
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Ya gotta expect some drop off from the normal solid D


Compared to this year? Or Steele with Muschamp recruits?
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 9:53 am to
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Who doesn't have more trouble with elite offenses than bad->good ones ? Everyone does. Saban's best defenses, including 2011 and 2016, had trouble with almost all great passing offenses. They just didn't play many in the SEC until the last 5 years or so.

Steele was a good DC, though probably a tad overrated. He benefitted greatly from Muschamp's effect. Like everyone else though, he was dependent upon his personnel.

Mason is probably a good hire, but it is frankly unknown now. The world is completely different than when he was last a DC; but it's not like he was out of college football, he was a HC in the SEC. He's certainly worth a try.



Steele had the personnel to slow those elite offenses, but he never changed schemes. He was very predictable and the OCs knew what he was going to do. The SEC has become a QB league and those teams with good QBs dominate the league. The problem has been there haven't been many good QBs, so DCs like Steele have looked good 70% of the time. He just never adjusted the other 30 %.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30272 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 10:04 am to
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Steele made his money with the average teams in the SEC. Against the better teams, AU had to lean on the Offense to win. Steele was overrated , even among Auburn circles.


I recall Steele saving Gus' arse many times with his defense as Gus' jerked around with the offense & sputtered. It's the O's job to score enough points to win. Gus & his myriad of OC's failed many times while Steele laid down the hammer on defense and helped Auburn squeak out a W.
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
21413 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 10:05 am to
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I recall Steele saving Gus' arse many times with his defense as Gus' jerked around with the offense & sputtered.

You recalled Correctly
Posted by FrankWhite'56
Close to Austin - but not TOO close
Member since Feb 2013
984 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 10:05 am to
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Steele had the personnel to slow those elite offenses, but he never changed schemes. He was very predictable and the OCs knew what he was going to do. The SEC has become a QB league and those teams with good QBs dominate the league. The problem has been there haven't been many good QBs, so DCs like Steele have looked good 70% of the time. He just never adjusted the other 30 %.


We just lined up and ran it between the tackles 46 times.
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