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re: At some point you may have to have a covid vaccine to enter a sporting event?
Posted on 8/3/21 at 12:28 pm to 8
Posted on 8/3/21 at 12:28 pm to 8
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Yeah delta is more easily transmitted. Its also far less deadly and severe.
Links? Not being a smart-A, genuinely curious. Everything I see says it's more severe. But I'm just a random dude googling.
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Posted on 8/3/21 at 12:28 pm to Hogfan13
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As for the rest of what you said, it doesn't scare me. But if it scares you, again, the J&J is available.
And that, sir, is a fair point. My line of work exposes me to a lot of stuff. I'd reached a point, regarding the COVID, where I wasn't scared to catch it - and I was going to take the J&J vaccine, just to get this all behind me. I am 49 and strong.
My county health inspector has banned the J&J shot. Not kidding in the slightest. I have no idea why.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 12:35 pm to VADawg
quote] This will especially be the case later this year when the CDC fully approves it.[/quote]
This is going to be a shock to you - a real shock. Grab a chair.
The CDC doesn't approve anything. The FDA does. The Federal Drug Administration. They typically insist on a trial of five years for a prescription. Vaccines usually require more - often up to ten. You could find all this out, with just a few taps of the keyboard on your Google Machine. If you wanted to know.
This is going to be a shock to you - a real shock. Grab a chair.
The CDC doesn't approve anything. The FDA does. The Federal Drug Administration. They typically insist on a trial of five years for a prescription. Vaccines usually require more - often up to ten. You could find all this out, with just a few taps of the keyboard on your Google Machine. If you wanted to know.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 12:35 pm to ScoggDog
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My county health inspector has banned the J&J shot. Not kidding in the slightest. I have no idea why.
Well, that is weird (and a little concerning
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Posted on 8/3/21 at 12:37 pm to ScoggDog
Maybe he meant when the CDC approves the policy of mandating vaccines?
I doubt that's how that works either, but I think that's what he was trying to say in response to me.
I doubt that's how that works either, but I think that's what he was trying to say in response to me.
This post was edited on 8/3/21 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 8/3/21 at 12:45 pm to Bobbum Man
I'm fine with them requiring proof of vaccination at this point, just want the season to go on like normal. Tired of all the attendance restrictions and postponements. Sure it's a pain in the arse but it's a lot better than last year's half-assed season.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 12:46 pm to gohogs141
Too f***in right. I didn't realize how much I would miss stadiums after just one year. Can't wait for it to be back this year.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 12:46 pm to Bobbum Man
UPS goes off the CDC. My job is requiring mask again vaccinated or not.
What’s the point of requiring someone to be vaccinated to enter if the mask work?
Sounds like mask are bullshite
What’s the point of requiring someone to be vaccinated to enter if the mask work?
Sounds like mask are bullshite
Posted on 8/3/21 at 12:47 pm to TheFourHorsemen
My whole family just got covid. I'm still getting over it as I was the last one to get it, and I'm on day 4. We all lost our sense of taste and smell (which was weird) and the whole nine. My 6 year old, who has asthma and severe allergies, was over it in three days without a hitch. I'm on day 4, and my wife dealt with symptoms for about a week. I could see my symptoms going on for another day or two, but I'm definitely on the way up to healthy.
I don't see what everyone is so scared about. This is no worse than a severe cold or a mild case of the flu. I've had flu much more severe than this. I've been sick, I'll give you that. Fevers, chills, aches, congestion, etc, but nothing I've never dealt with before.
This illness has a 99% survival rate. Why do we need to be vaccinated for it? Where are all the dead bodies stacked up in the streets because of this "killer"? Why are homeless unaffected? Why aren't they just entirely wiped out would be a better question? You people are being manipulated and lied to. Wake the frick up.
I will never pump my veins full of poison for anyone or anything, and anyone trying to force it upon me will be met with violence if necessary. I will not be forced to take the shot.
I don't see what everyone is so scared about. This is no worse than a severe cold or a mild case of the flu. I've had flu much more severe than this. I've been sick, I'll give you that. Fevers, chills, aches, congestion, etc, but nothing I've never dealt with before.
This illness has a 99% survival rate. Why do we need to be vaccinated for it? Where are all the dead bodies stacked up in the streets because of this "killer"? Why are homeless unaffected? Why aren't they just entirely wiped out would be a better question? You people are being manipulated and lied to. Wake the frick up.
I will never pump my veins full of poison for anyone or anything, and anyone trying to force it upon me will be met with violence if necessary. I will not be forced to take the shot.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 12:48 pm to TheTideMustRoll
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How would you police such a thing? I guess maybe you could have those without the vaccine wear some sort of identifying mark. Maybe like a triangle, or a star?
They want that for sure.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 12:48 pm to Hogfan13
Posted on 8/3/21 at 12:48 pm to Crimsonite94
Masks have been bullshite for quite a while. It's not even relatively new. Unless it's an N-95, it's not doing much of anything at all. Just acting as a face diaper.
This is why all our betters in D.C. tend to throw them off the second they think they are in private (check out Bowser and Obama just this week for the latest of countless examples).
Actions speak louder than words.
This is why all our betters in D.C. tend to throw them off the second they think they are in private (check out Bowser and Obama just this week for the latest of countless examples).
Actions speak louder than words.
This post was edited on 8/3/21 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 8/3/21 at 12:50 pm to elposter
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Can you imagine checking identification for 100k trying to get into a game? You better get to the gate 6 hours before kick off.
Neyland Stadium does something crazy, and they've been doing it for years. They make you hold out your ticket stub and they look at it to verify that it is legitimate. Could you imagine how much time they added to the process by doing that?
Posted on 8/3/21 at 12:51 pm to Bobbum Man
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Maybe he meant when the CDC approves the policy of mandating vaccines?
The CDC doesn't "approve" anything either.
The CDC issues recommendations. That's literally all they are empowered to do. All those mRNA shots people are taking are because the FDA issued an "emergency use order". Thanks Donald Trump - quite seriously. They gave him what he thought he wanted.
Long term - none of this is "approved". And won't be, for years. It's all taken "at your own risk". It's a drug trial.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 12:51 pm to ScoggDog
Fair enough. That's always been my understanding as well. Just wanted to clarify the claim he was making. He's just pretty loose with his words, IMO. The CDC doesn't "decide" that the public has to do anything. To your point, they make recommendations that others either act on or don't. Furthermore, I disagree with him that the Feds can mandate it does everyone and at the very least, states are within their rights to circumvent that (as some already have).
This post was edited on 8/3/21 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 8/3/21 at 12:53 pm to Bobbum Man
So answer me this…
The point of the vaccine is to reduce the symptoms so you don’t die from them. You CAN still spread the virus however apparently. So you don’t die, but non vaxxed can.
If you don’t let any non vaccinated people inside who are you protecting? If everyone allowed inside is vaccinated then we are all safe right? So you aren’t protecting anyone. You are just trying to force people to get a vaccine.
If someone wants to put themself at risk of dying by not getting vaccinated and then entering a place with a bunch of people that’s their problem. If we can all still spread it then what’s the point?
The point of the vaccine is to reduce the symptoms so you don’t die from them. You CAN still spread the virus however apparently. So you don’t die, but non vaxxed can.
If you don’t let any non vaccinated people inside who are you protecting? If everyone allowed inside is vaccinated then we are all safe right? So you aren’t protecting anyone. You are just trying to force people to get a vaccine.
If someone wants to put themself at risk of dying by not getting vaccinated and then entering a place with a bunch of people that’s their problem. If we can all still spread it then what’s the point?
Posted on 8/3/21 at 12:54 pm to TheFourHorsemen
Posted on 8/3/21 at 12:55 pm to ScoggDog
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Kids - lets boil all this down. Some of you are very much pro-mRNA shot, and you'll support anything it takes to mandate everyone take it.
I do not think you should have to take it. Don’t put words in my mouth.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 12:56 pm to ScoggDog
What a garbage comparison, obesity isn't contagious, and if there were a shot to mitigate all obesity comorbidities your whole family would be in a line.
Also you are wrong about what employers are allowed to mandate. When I applied to Alabama Power years ago the application said they're no longer hiring tobacco users and I'd have to submit to a screening if selected. It didn't seem legal, so I googled, and it is.
All these armchair constitutional scholars are in for a rude awakening once the FDA upgrades the vaccine to full approval and companies start setting requiring the shot en masse
Also you are wrong about what employers are allowed to mandate. When I applied to Alabama Power years ago the application said they're no longer hiring tobacco users and I'd have to submit to a screening if selected. It didn't seem legal, so I googled, and it is.
All these armchair constitutional scholars are in for a rude awakening once the FDA upgrades the vaccine to full approval and companies start setting requiring the shot en masse
Posted on 8/3/21 at 12:57 pm to Crimsonite94
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So answer me this…
The point of the vaccine is to reduce the symptoms so you don’t die from them. You CAN still spread the virus however apparently. So you don’t die, but non vaxxed can.
If you don’t let any non vaccinated people inside who are you protecting? If everyone allowed inside is vaccinated then we are all safe right? So you aren’t protecting anyone. You are just trying to force people to get a vaccine.
If someone wants to put themself at risk of dying by not getting vaccinated and then entering a place with a bunch of people that’s their problem. If we can all still spread it then what’s the point?
1. I largely agree with the spirit of your post and an completely against any kind of coercion to get vaxxed.
2. I could be wrong here, but my understanding is the latest info shows that whole "the vaccinated can spread it just as much" is actually not true.
3. Let's just look at it differently to avoid the matter vaccinated people getting or not getting the virus. If getting the vaccine protects you from severe illness or death the vast, vast, vast majority of the time , why would one care about the unvaccinated at all??? It's their choice. You're safe regardless.
I agree, they have definitely been talking in circles with this thing. I'm sure that's all the fault of the unvaccinated too.
This post was edited on 8/3/21 at 1:02 pm
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