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re: As much as bammers complain about illegal man downfield
Posted on 9/23/15 at 1:08 pm to partsman103
Posted on 9/23/15 at 1:08 pm to partsman103
Yup illegal formation on LT his helmet not on line with centers belt.
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Posted on 9/23/15 at 1:08 pm to HottyToddy7
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The QB isn't even in frame when it is released. Your crimson glasses need to be corrected.
You can judge it based on where the running back is.
Posted on 9/23/15 at 1:10 pm to pvilleguru
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You can judge it based on where the running back is.
He is 3 yards downfield when the camera leaves the QB and hasn't even started his throwing motion. 6 yards downfield when the receiver catches the ball. Gump logic = 3 yards downfield when it is thrown.
Posted on 9/23/15 at 1:13 pm to Funky Tide 8
Posted on 9/23/15 at 1:13 pm to ohsfan281
I still don't think the OM play was a designed pass play. I think Kelly was trying to turn the corner for a QB keeper and looked up and saw C.Core wide arse open so he chunked it
This post was edited on 9/23/15 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 9/23/15 at 1:13 pm to TutHillTiger
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It is This will be changed to 1 yard like the pros this offseason.
Assuming everything else you said is correct, that would be the most rational solution.
We need Bert and Nick to make this a player safety issue in order for it to really get...traction.
Posted on 9/23/15 at 1:14 pm to HottyToddy7
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He is 3 yards downfield when the camera leaves the QB and hasn't even started his throwing motion.
The ball is snapped from the 38. The QB is not in the frame when he is at the 40. The ball enters the frame when he is between the 41 and 42.
Posted on 9/23/15 at 1:14 pm to The Egg
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the question is whether or not saban turned himself in as well, since he's crying about the ole miss play.
Citation needed.
Alabama FANS are bitching something awful about the play. I've yet to see Saban bitch about a single one - including the tip pass. The only statements I've seen him make were in response to direct questions from the media. On both the tip and the downfield pass, he said Bama should have been in position to make the stop anyhow.
As far as submitting film to the league office, I'm sure you're aware that's something every team does on a regular basis, right?
Oh, and here are Les' thoughts on the play
Miles: If you step on goal line that's it. Now the line of scrimmage is 1 1/2-2 yds past that. Rule that benefits spread offense
Posted on 9/23/15 at 1:16 pm to pvilleguru
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The ball enters the frame when he is between the 41 and 42
He's at the 44. Use the pause button.
Posted on 9/23/15 at 1:16 pm to fillmoregandt
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I still don't think the OM play was a designed pass play. I think Kelly was trying to turn the corner for a QB keeper and looked up and saw C.Core wide arse open so he chunked it
I tend to agree with you.
Posted on 9/23/15 at 1:16 pm to fillmoregandt
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I still don't think the OM was a designed pass play. I think Kelly was trying to turn the corner for a QB keeper and looked up and saw C.Core wide arse open so he chunked it
Exactly.. If it was a designed run then it makes it even worse. You know the lineman are going to release and block on a designed run. The DBs see this and don't worry about the WR because based on the location of the lineman the QB is not allowed to throw under the written rules.
Posted on 9/23/15 at 1:17 pm to ohsfan281
It should be called... The rule is the rule... Kelly didn't have his hands on a linebacker blocking him either...
Posted on 9/23/15 at 1:18 pm to HottyToddy7
It was a penalty that should have been called, and makes me wonder wtf Kelly was doing just aimlessly wandering around downfield looking for someone to block on what is clearly a pass play lol
Posted on 9/23/15 at 1:19 pm to HottyToddy7
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He's at the 44. Use the pause button.
You can't possibly be watching the same video. The ball passes #70 when he's at the 43.
At least his feet are on the 43. Can't tell where the rest of his body is because of the skewed angle.
This post was edited on 9/23/15 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 9/23/15 at 1:21 pm to TutHillTiger
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The problem is the rule allows blocking 3 yards downfield in college unlike 1 yard downfield in the pros. The difference between 3 yards and 4 or 5 is hard to tell in live action so it doesn't get called. It is This will be changed to 1 yard like the pros this offseason.
Agree here too. This rule is basically like the speed limit. Folks are going to drive a tad over whatever the number is and cops are going to give a little cushion.
Right now the rule is 3, but there's no chance in the world it will get noticed (much less flagged) unless it is AT LEAST 5 yards. In reality you'd probably have to be 7 or 8.
Make the rule 1 yard and you'll start seeing it flagged at 3 or 4 yards and pretty much everyone will be happy.
Posted on 9/23/15 at 1:22 pm to Bobby OG Johnson
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makes me wonder wtf Kelly was doing just aimlessly wandering around downfield
Well, I guess he was being consistent. He spent a lot of time aimlessly wandering around Saturday night too.
Posted on 9/23/15 at 1:25 pm to TheCosbySweater
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Re-watching the Bama/Ole Miss game... Do you think yall controlled any part of that game?
I'm not watching that abortion again. I don't need to to say no, we didn't. That's why I've accepted it, and am not going to complain about the play.
But I'm am pissed that Bama blew a very winnable game, against a good opponent. But we couldn't stop tripping over our own dicks, and lost it. That's why you gotta pay the games.
Posted on 9/23/15 at 1:25 pm to KelticMonday
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Most of Alabama's WR screens would be penalties in the NFL.
Examples? No saying you are wrong, but I have a hard time believing that our OLinemen have enough time to get more than 3 yards down the field before most of those screens are completed.
Posted on 9/23/15 at 1:27 pm to JustGetItRight
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Well, I guess he was being consistent. He spent a lot of time aimlessly wandering around Saturday night too.
lol Agreed.
Posted on 9/23/15 at 1:44 pm to Bobby OG Johnson
Should be called if breaking rules
No matter what's done
Does the rule state where OL is when ball is release by QB or where OL is when receiver catches pass? If when ball is thrown by QB, seems the Bama OL is right at 3 yard marker. If when caught by receiver, Bama OL is way past 3 yard marker then. Either way, I think there shouldn't any OL downfield until ball is thrown by QB.
No matter what's done
Does the rule state where OL is when ball is release by QB or where OL is when receiver catches pass? If when ball is thrown by QB, seems the Bama OL is right at 3 yard marker. If when caught by receiver, Bama OL is way past 3 yard marker then. Either way, I think there shouldn't any OL downfield until ball is thrown by QB.
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