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re: Arky fans, remind me, how is Petrino better than Nutt again?

Posted on 1/5/11 at 8:47 am to
Posted by WonderWartHawg
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Posted on 1/5/11 at 8:47 am to
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Arky fans, remind me, how is Petrino better than Nutt again?


Dude, I admire your blind devotion to your program, but honestly I think 'blind' is the correct word.

What direction has the OM program taken lately?
And what direction is Arkansas headed?

Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 1/5/11 at 8:50 am to
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But I just don't see how this season > 2007 or how Coach Petrino can do any better than he is doing right now.

Great stirring sir.

Posted by TheCheshireHog
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Posted on 1/5/11 at 8:51 am to
He very well may not. As long as he does the same or better he will be set. Hell Nutt probably would have been set for life here if he wasn't so fricked in the head. He got fired more so for his off the field shite than his on the field work.
Posted by DCRebel
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Posted on 1/5/11 at 8:52 am to
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What direction has the OM program taken lately?
And what direction is Arkansas headed?


It's almost a nowhere to go but up type situation for us and a nowhere to go but down type situation for you...

Unless you legitimately think Arkansas wins the BCS or some shite next season. If that happens, I'll paypal $20 to you AND YouTube myself woopiggin up and down my street.
Posted by DCRebel
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Posted on 1/5/11 at 8:53 am to
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Great stirring sir.


You should see me stir IN PERSON. You'd be wowed.
Posted by Billy Mays
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Posted on 1/5/11 at 8:55 am to
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Dude, I admire your blind devotion to your program, but honestly I think 'blind' is the correct word.

What direction has the OM program taken lately?
And what direction is Arkansas headed?


FWIW, no reasonable OM fan is blindly devoted to Nutt. He has 1 more year to turn it around or he is done. Fact.

As far as program direction goes, things can change quickly in CFB.

We did go from 0-8 in the SEC in 2007 to 10 wins in 2008 after all...
Posted by DCRebel
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Posted on 1/5/11 at 8:57 am to
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FWIW, no reasonable OM fan is blindly devoted to Nutt. He has 1 more year to turn it around or he is done. Fact.


This. I kinda sorta hate the shite out of Houston Nutt. I don't know where y'all are spinning this into some sort of "OMG U JUST LUB HOOTEN!!11" argument. I've never said anything of that sort. I just think that half of the shite y'all bitch and moan about re: Nutt are things that y'all give Bobby Petrino free passes on (bowl losses, shitty recruiting, making a fricking arse of himself in front of the media, etc.)

Anybody can see the obvious double-standard y'all have here but, whatever, enjoy the hangovers this morning.
Posted by sugatowng
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Posted on 1/5/11 at 9:00 am to
dude...you are a retard
Posted by WonderWartHawg
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Posted on 1/5/11 at 9:01 am to
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It's almost a nowhere to go but up type situation for us and a nowhere to go but down type situation for you... Unless you legitimately think Arkansas wins the BCS or some shite next season. If that happens, I'll paypal $20 to you AND YouTube myself woopiggin up and down my street.


Well, you know there is also the possibility of your program staying right where it is, you know... being on the bottom does not mean you automatically start going up.

Again, I understand your loyalty and devotion to your program - but sadly, I know that you and many others will wake up to the reality of where your current coaching staff is going to be able to take you.

Yeah, we stunk it up last night. I'll admit that. I never dreamed that we would drop so many passes. THAT was a major abberation.

Thank you for your offer of $20.00. I don't know if we will 'win' the BCS next season, but I feel really good about the prospects for next season.

How are you feeling about yours?
Posted by TheCheshireHog
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Posted on 1/5/11 at 9:03 am to
Petrino is 1-1 in bowls while Nutt was 2-6. He has a way to catch up there. Petrino's "average" recruiting ranking is better than Nutt was at Arkansas so he has a leg up there. The program is more organized and seems to be trending upwards.

This wasn't a senior laden team like Nutt's three best teams were so I see that as a positive too. We should start out as a top 15 team next year.

If Petrino can stay competitive with underclassmen teams and win big with senior laden teams than he is a legit coach for a school like Arkansas. Nutt was like riding an intense roller coaster. His senior teams were really good but you fell to the earth hard when you had to rely on underclassmen more.
Posted by DCRebel
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Posted on 1/5/11 at 9:04 am to
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How are you feeling about yours?


I have no idea. I kinda like the idea of Coach Nutt actually coaching like his job is on the line, something which I doubt he has ever done. I think our rushing attack will be pretty fricking solid and our defense can't possibly be any worse so we won't be an easy out for anybody.
Posted by DCRebel
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Posted on 1/5/11 at 9:09 am to
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His senior teams were really good but you fell to the earth hard when you had to rely on underclassmen more.


Eh, yes and no. I think both are good with underclassmen skill players, but neither have really taken freshmen linemen anywhere as far as I can tell. Your experienced line of this last season stunk it up a few years back, remember?

And even with a bunch of young offensive linemen, Ole Miss still aferaged more rushing yards and points per game than last season's team which had Dexter McCluster. I think something a lot of folks are missing here is that Nutt, being responsible for the offense, didn't suck THAT bad this season as a coach. Our young, injured, and poorly coached defense did more damage than Nutt's patchwork offense.
Posted by DCRebel
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Posted on 1/5/11 at 9:12 am to
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Petrino is 1-1 in bowls while Nutt was 2-6.


Nutt is 2-0 at Ole Miss in bowls.

Once again, losing bowl games is a hallmark of Razorbacks football and kinda sorta always has been.
Posted by TheCheshireHog
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Posted on 1/5/11 at 9:26 am to
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neither have really taken freshmen linemen anywhere as far as I can tell

We had two FR All-American OL this year.
This post was edited on 1/5/11 at 9:28 am
Posted by DCRebel
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Posted on 1/5/11 at 9:41 am to
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We had two FR All-American OL this year.


Well that's neat. I hadn't heard that.
Posted by ocelot4ark
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Posted on 1/5/11 at 9:44 am to
How bout you eat a dick, a-hole?

Jacksonville State. I don't think Petrino's ever lost to such a lowly program. And he's never lost to fricking VANDERBILT at home.

So there. That's two.
Posted by GreyReb
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Posted on 1/5/11 at 9:47 am to
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He was\is a good players coach and motivator, but his managment and people skills are on par with Michael Scott.


Management is one area I wish Nutt would improve upon. Thats why I want him to quit being the OC.
Posted by DCRebel
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Posted on 1/5/11 at 9:54 am to
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How bout you eat a dick, a-hole?

Jacksonville State. I don't think Petrino's ever lost to such a lowly program. And he's never lost to fricking VANDERBILT at home.

So there. That's two.


frick off you shitstain. I hope you die of bovine AIDS or at least get your throat slit by some nation of Islam member while serving time after the DEA finds your meth lab.

As has been said, I don't particularly like Nutt. Your dumb arse obviously can't or didn't read that part but, whatever. I wanted his arse toast after the Jacksonville State loss myself. Furthermore, Ole Miss has been losing to Vanderbilt at home for DECADES. That shite happened to the coaches before Nutt and will happen to the coaches after Nutt... sorta like how Arkansas' head coaches will always shove cocks in their eyesockets while coaching bowl games.

The point still remains, the best seasons Nutt had at Arkansas are no worse than this past season under Petrino.
This post was edited on 1/5/11 at 9:55 am
Posted by Porky
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Posted on 1/5/11 at 10:06 am to
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But in terms of what they've done for the Arkansas program, they're not much different.

You can see it more with how they handle losses.
Petrino hates losing. When we lose, we know he's done his best to prepare the team. With Nutt, he makes excuses.



Posted by TheCheshireHog
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Posted on 1/5/11 at 10:07 am to
Nutt only had one season in 10 years that equaled this one record wise. Petrino has one in 3. Let's come back and revisit in 7 more years. Product on the field is improving, recruiting is better than its ever been.

I think its safe to say Petrino will have an as good or better record in 7 years than Nutt did.

Fact is Nutt got fired more for being a ruhtard off the field than for what he did on the field. It just drew hatred toward him which then caused people to pick apart his on the field product as well. He would probably have still been the head coach at Arkansas if he wasn't such a damn drama queen.
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