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re: "Arkansas can't out-Bama Bama or out-Lsu Lsu"

Posted on 5/30/14 at 1:11 am to
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 1:11 am to
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I dont need any convincing, the current body of evidence in his time in the SEC resoundingly supports my argument.

LINK

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Power rushing attack won't work at Arkansas (Posted on 1/9/14 at 3:21 pm)00

Myth.

Stats and shite

The Hogs finished 4th in the SEC in both YPC (5.4) and YPG (190.0) rushing in SEC only games.

This despite the fact that we were only 12th overall in attempts.

This in just our first year in this new system that we don't really have the personnel to run yet. Not to mention having true freshman starting at both guard spots and TE.

If the Hogs can find any semblance of a QB then this offense can actually be pretty legit going forward. That side of the ball is not going to be the problem under this staff if we can improve the passing game.

I know, I know, maybe we never find a QB and the experiment fails. My point is just that EVERYONE has told us that you can't line up in 22 personnel and run Power against the new SEC while at Arkansas. That is obviously not true as we proved this year and will only continue to prove as we get a line further developed by Pittman.
This post was edited on 5/30/14 at 1:13 am
Posted by abellsujr
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 1:11 am to
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Roger Klarvin
Posted by SunHog
Illinois
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 1:14 am to
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First, Houston Nutt ran a very different offense than Bielema does. If you cant see or acknowledge that, there isnt much point to discussing this further. Not all running is equal.



Why is it so different?

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Second, Nutt had a lot more talent than Bielema does currently.


Yup, all Arkansas talent that went to the NFL. Bert is a much better recruiter.

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Third, the SEC landscape was different 10-15 years ago.


Yeah, Saban was winning titles at LSU instead of Alabama.

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West wasnt landing top 15 classes every year.


Yes it was.

Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 1:14 am to
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That's a ridiculous notion


Its proven true time and again across multiple programs in multiple conferences in the last 15 years or so. The single most difficult offense to run effectively at the college level is a run heavy playaction pass scheme because it requires such a high level of talent and execution to run well. Its why so many of the Big Ten offenses largely suck arse every year and why everyone falsely believes their defenses are so much better than everyone else's.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 1:16 am to
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The single most difficult offense to run effectively at the college level is a run heavy playaction pass scheme because it requires such a high level of talent and execution to run well. Its why so many of the Big Ten offenses largely suck arse every year and why everyone falsely believes their defenses are so much better than everyone else's.


This is correct.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 1:18 am to
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The single most difficult offense to run effectively at the college level is a run heavy playaction pass scheme because it requires such a high level of talent and execution to run well


Petrino wasn't a good recruiter but he had good offenses.

Still couldn't beat Bama though because he never had a good defense. Same reason aggy didn't beat Bama last year.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 1:19 am to
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The single most difficult offense to run effectively at the college level is a run heavy playaction pass scheme because it requires such a high level of talent and execution to run well.

is Stanford talent considered high level?
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 1:20 am to
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is Stanford talent considered high level?


Depends on who you ask
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 1:21 am to
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Its proven true time and again across multiple programs in multiple conferences in the last 15 years or so. The single most difficult offense to run effectively at the college level is a run heavy playaction pass scheme because it requires such a high level of talent and execution to run well.


I forgot to mention, you just pulled this out of your arse.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 1:22 am to
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I forgot to mention, you just pulled this out of your arse.


Shame on RK for copping your MO, tbh
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 1:22 am to
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is Stanford talent considered high level?

you know the same Stanford team that recently did this to that mighty Oregon spread team LINK

huh. will ya look at that. looks like a lot of 3 stars made up that team LINK
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 1:23 am to
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you know the same Stanford team that recently did this to that mighty Oregon spread team LINK

huh. will ya look at that. looks like a lot of 3 stars made up that team


Stanford's players are smarter than yours.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 1:25 am to
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Stanford's players are smarter than yours.


This thread was going fine until you entered it, if you want to flame please take it someplace else.

Unless you want to talk about football, then by all means stay.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 1:25 am to
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“But if I had transferred into a Stanford or a program that had a pro-type offense background and the type of defense we like to run, the transition probably would’ve been a little bit smoother

-- Bert
Posted by MSUmtowndawg
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 1:26 am to
I think in this current cycle of college football you can't run a power running game without elite talent a an above average D. Top programs can, but the half step down programs can't. They need a ripple like the spread type O to equal it out. I don't know what y'all are running so my take it just looking at the whole landscape. I miss the power I and don't like the spread fwiw. I hope power running comes back to the masses. It's cyclical.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 1:26 am to
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This thread was going fine until you entered it, if you want to flame please take it someplace else.

Unless you want to talk about football, then by all means stay.


This is hilarious coming from you
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 1:27 am to
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Stanford's players are smarter than yours.

Posted by SunHog
Illinois
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 1:27 am to


All is right on the rant and in the world.
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 1:27 am to
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Stonehog
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This thread was going fine until you entered it, if you want to flame please take it someplace else. Unless you want to talk about football, then by all means stay.
I laughed IRL
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 1:27 am to
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