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re: "Arkansas can't out-Bama Bama or out-Lsu Lsu"

Posted on 5/30/14 at 1:27 am to
Posted by FourThreeForty
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 1:27 am to
Stonehog........plz.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 1:29 am to
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Stonehog........plz.


I think we all shared a collective chuckle
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 1:29 am to
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I think in this current cycle of college football you can't run a power running game without elite talent

o rly? LINK
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I miss the power I and don't like the spread fwiw. I hope power running comes back to the masses

eh I like how there's competing styles. if it was all the same it would be boring.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 1:30 am to
But can Bert out-Fran Fran?
Posted by MSUmtowndawg
Jackson, MS
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 1:31 am to
I'm enjoying flame free football talk with you. Thanks

Eta: Stanford had the talent to run the power I. On O and D
This post was edited on 5/30/14 at 1:32 am
Posted by SunHog
Illinois
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 1:31 am to
Houston Nutt out'ed Saban many years in a row therefore I certainly believe Bert can too.

Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 1:31 am to
I laughed for realz
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 1:33 am to
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Why is it so different?


One offense used a zone blocking scheme, the other a man blocking scheme. One relied more on playaction, the other more on misdirection. The two offenses passing trees are wildly different.

Nutt had decidedly more "gimmicks" than Bielema.

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Yup, all Arkansas talent that went to the NFL. Bert is a much better recruiter.


He isnt much of a recruiter.

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Yeah, Saban was winning titles at LSU instead of Alabama.


And Bama was irrelevant among many other differences.

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Yes it was.


You know, sometimes Im amazed at how little some longtime SEC fans know about their league. A newb shouldnt have to teach you things.

In 2000, the West signed one top 15 class

In 2001, the West signed one top 15 class

In 2002, the West signed two top 15 classes

In 2003, the West signed two top 15 classes

In 2004, the West signed one top 15 class

In 2005, the West signed one top 15 class
This post was edited on 5/30/14 at 1:34 am
Posted by FourThreeForty
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 1:33 am to
All you need for a power running game is a solid conditioning program, a gelled O-line over time, and skill players that buy into blocking. That simple. Not as much talent as it is just listening to the got damn coach :wishdunnogifwashere:
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 1:33 am to
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I'm enjoying flame free football talk with you. Thanks


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Eta: Stanford had the talent to run the power I. On O and D

that they do. they've been recruiting for that system for quite some time now.
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 1:34 am to
Since 2011, Stanford has had the folling ranking in Rivals recruiting:

#22
#5
#64 yikes
#14

One year of so called "elite" talent. I'm on nobodies side. Just giving the info cause I'm bored.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 1:35 am to
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I think in this current cycle of college football you can't run a power running game without elite talent a an above average D


Defense is the reason the SEC has dominated college football for the past decade. Like I said earlier, every SEC national champion except for Auburn 2010 had an elite defense. That's what sets this league apart from the rest of the country, we have defensive linemen in the South that just don't exist in places like the Northeast and the Pacific Northwest.

If the formula for beating SEC teams was as simple as running a spread offense, then we wouldn't have won all those consecutive national championships.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 1:35 am to
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All you need for a power running game is a solid conditioning program, a gelled O-line over time, and skill players that buy into blocking. That simple.


Plus a little bit of football IQ and some elevated corporate knowledge
Posted by FourThreeForty
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 1:35 am to
That was nearly a decade or more ago. Saban is a monster now compared to what he used to be.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 1:39 am to
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Nutt had decidedly more "gimmicks" than Bielema.


Like what?
Posted by MSUmtowndawg
Jackson, MS
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 1:39 am to
Yeah the spread wasn't was it is today then. Just a short time ago. It's crazy how fast it changed.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46506 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 1:40 am to
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is Stanford talent considered high level?


They've had four first and second round lineman picks the last three years, three skill position players drafted and of course some guy named Andrew Luck. They signed a Top-5 class in 2012 and a top-15 class in 2014. They've landed a higher ranked class than Arkansas four of the last five years.

So yes
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 1:41 am to
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Since 2011, Stanford has had the folling ranking in Rivals recruiting:

#22
#5
#64 yikes
#14

One year of so called "elite" talent.

here's that one year of "elite talent" 2012

3 five stars = elite?

eta doubt they helped much, if at all, with that team that beat Oregon
This post was edited on 5/30/14 at 1:43 am
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 1:41 am to
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I forgot to mention, you just pulled this out of your arse.


Sorry I know more about the game than you brah.
Posted by NGATiger
Member since Dec 2013
3044 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 1:42 am to
Damn, I leave for an hour or so and this turns into the Pac12 Board.
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