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re: APR (Academic Progress Report) for the SEC

Posted on 6/11/13 at 4:39 pm to
Posted by Hogwall Jackson
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Member since Feb 2013
5055 posts
Posted on 6/11/13 at 4:39 pm to
quote:

1. Vanderbilt (992.39)
2. Mizzou (989.37) 3.
Alabama (983.58) 4.
Georgia (983.42) 5.
South Carolina (979.53) 6.
Ole Miss (978.94) 7.
Kentucky (977.95) 8.
Florida (977.21) 9.
Auburn (974.16) 10.
Arkansas (973.33) 11.
Tennessee (971.22) 12.
Mississippi State (970.73) 13.
LSU (967.63)
14. Texas A&M (964.50)
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 6/11/13 at 4:44 pm to
quote:

Cecil gumping, forgot Mizzou.


Don't blame Cecil. They haven't done anything to remind him they're actually in the SEC now.
Posted by bdelarosa7
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2012
1661 posts
Posted on 6/11/13 at 4:50 pm to
You're revealing your ar-kansas education:

quote:

Additionally, when comparing the average APR score of the 19 SEC sports in which MU competes, Mizzou also comes in with a strong second-place showing.


Here they are provided by the NCAA:

Mizzou 982
Bama 978
Vandy 973
UF & Ga 968
MSU 967
USC 966
TA&M 954
Aub 950
LSU & Miss 944
Ky 943
Ark 938
UT 924

And to further add to your stupidity:
Bottom 10 BCS football APR:
UL & Tenn 924
OkSt 926
ISU 928
UNC 934
Cal 935,
Texas 936
ArizSt & Md 937
Ark 938





Learn to read.
This post was edited on 6/11/13 at 4:53 pm
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
40278 posts
Posted on 6/11/13 at 4:53 pm to
Does APR stand for grade inflation?
Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23179 posts
Posted on 6/11/13 at 4:56 pm to
quote:

Here they are provided by the NCAA:

Mizzou 982
Bama 978
Vandy 973
UF & Ga 968
MSU 967
USC 966
TA&M 954
Aub 950
LSU & Miss 944
Ky 943
Ark 938
UT 924

I believe these are football program scores only.

quote:

1. Vanderbilt (992.39)
2. Mizzou (989.37) 3.
Alabama (983.58) 4.
Georgia (983.42) 5.
South Carolina (979.53) 6.
Ole Miss (978.94) 7.
Kentucky (977.95) 8.
Florida (977.21) 9.
Auburn (974.16) 10.
Arkansas (973.33) 11.
Tennessee (971.22) 12.
Mississippi State (970.73) 13.
LSU (967.63)
14. Texas A&M (964.50)

These are overall scores from all sports - at least the ones Mizzou participates in.

quote:

Texas 936

Are you kidding me?!?!?!?! Bevo's football players are that dumb? :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
This post was edited on 6/11/13 at 4:59 pm
Posted by CheeseburgerEddie
Crimson Tide Fan Club
Member since Oct 2012
15574 posts
Posted on 6/11/13 at 4:59 pm to
Alabama is the definition of scholar athlete.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 6/11/13 at 5:01 pm to
The fact bama is not at 1000.00 shows you just how dumb a lot of their athletes are. You REALLY have to try extremely hard to fail anything at bama accademically.
Posted by CheeseburgerEddie
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Member since Oct 2012
15574 posts
Posted on 6/11/13 at 5:03 pm to
not true. Alabama is a fine academic institution.

Three athletes named academic all-americans in the past week.

LINK
That link is from 2010 but shows about three or four years back of outstanding academic achievement.
This post was edited on 6/11/13 at 5:06 pm
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 6/11/13 at 5:06 pm to
quote:

Alabama is a fine academic institution.
Posted by CheeseburgerEddie
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Member since Oct 2012
15574 posts
Posted on 6/11/13 at 5:10 pm to
I have said numerous times on this board, that the quality of education is in large part the responsibility of the student. You can skate and get by at nearly any institution. You can also take advantage of the knowledge your professors have through a little work and dedication.

And the link shows you that Alabama had more USA academic All Americans than any other institution in the country that year.
This post was edited on 6/11/13 at 5:11 pm
Posted by dallasga6
Scrap Metal Magnate...
Member since Mar 2009
25666 posts
Posted on 6/11/13 at 5:12 pm to
quote:

Football APR SEC: Mizzou 982, Bama 978, Vandy 973, UF & Ga 968, MSU 967, USC 966, TA&M 954,Aub 950, LSU & Miss 944, Ky 943, Ark 938, UT 924



Notice Vandy's APR going down as their win total goes up, SEC Baby...
Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23179 posts
Posted on 6/11/13 at 5:19 pm to
quote:

I have said numerous times on this board, that the quality of education is in large part the responsibility of the student.

I agree with this. But if I were the parent of a college football player, I'd want them in a program that also places a high importance on academic achievement and getting their degree. Some schools are better at this than others. Alabama seems to be one of them, as is Mizzou.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25602 posts
Posted on 6/11/13 at 5:48 pm to
Don't take this the wrong way... but the education rests more on the efforts of the student than that of the university.

I understand that some schools will more easily fail a kid than give a passing grade (and thus not all GPAs are created equal).

But the effort is still 100% on the student. Not the university.

You take from your education what you put into it.
Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23179 posts
Posted on 6/11/13 at 6:21 pm to
quote:

meansonny

Oh, I agree - the responsibility lies with the student. But I do think some programs place a greater emphasis on academic success than others, and offer more academic support to their student athletes. That's all I'm saying.

I think that a kid can get a great education at any SEC school - but he would get better support from the athletic program at some schools than others.
Posted by WhiskerBiscuitSlayer
Member since Jan 2013
13840 posts
Posted on 6/11/13 at 6:30 pm to
quote:

These are overall scores from all sports - at least the ones Mizzou participates in.


Apparently the standards aren't any higher at Mizery than they are at ar-kansas.
This post was edited on 6/11/13 at 6:31 pm
Posted by jatebe
Queen of Links
Member since Oct 2008
18284 posts
Posted on 6/11/13 at 6:33 pm to
quote:

LSU has graduated 80% of its football players (second only to Vanderbilt) for the last 2 years.



Football Graduation Rates: SEC
Vanderbilt 85%
LSU 77%
Florida 75%
Alabama 75%
Missouri 73%
Georgia 69%
Texas A&M 69%
Kentucky 65%
Auburn 64%
Mississippi St. 60%
Mississippi 59%
Tennessee 58%
South Carolina 55%
Arkansas 54%


quote:

LSU and Florida have GSRs of 77% and 75%, which seems reasonably good on the surface. But these two schools have big differences between their GSRs and their federal graduation rates.

Both LSU and Florida have a federal graduation rate of 49%, which is not good at all. The low federal grad rates indicate that these two programs lose a lot of scholarship players, whether through transfer or otherwise.

Their graduation rates for the players who stay are decent, but that doesn't tell the whole story because it doesn't reflect numerous departures.

For example, LSU's Graduation Success Rate of 77% appears to be based on 41 graduates out of 53 incoming scholarship players over a four year period.

LSU's 49% federal graduation rate for that same period appears to be based on 41 graduates out of 83 scholarship players.

The GSR methodology allowed LSU to exclude from the calculation 30 players who departed from the program. Those 30 departing players are included in the federal graduation rate.

So, despite its apparently respectable GSR of 77%, fewer than half of the incoming scholarship players at LSU actually graduated from LSU.


LINK
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25602 posts
Posted on 6/11/13 at 6:44 pm to
quote:

and offer more academic support to their student athletes.


Every school will give equal resources to the student athlete. And by that... I mean resources absolutely not available to the general student population.

Some schools, however, won't tolerate joke courseloads and half-assed efforts in the classroom. And that's where the value of specific universities come in. A 4.0 at a Missouri means something different in the business world than a 4.0 at Alabama. A 4.0 at Stanford means something different than a 4.0 at Auburn.

And that is what gets recognized in the business world. That's the benefit (which has to be earned) at a more prestigious university.

It doesn't mean that the 4.0 athlete at Auburn worked any less than the 4.0 at Stanford. But it means that the majority of the 4.0s at Auburn did't have to work as hard as the majority of 4.0s at Stanford. And thus the general consensus in the business world reflects that higher attention to excellence.
Posted by CheeseburgerEddie
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Member since Oct 2012
15574 posts
Posted on 6/11/13 at 6:48 pm to
Most business don't even look at your GPA, other than to throw any applications that don't meet the requirement in the trash. It is the truth.
Posted by svb
Missouri Fan
Member since Jun 2012
3127 posts
Posted on 6/11/13 at 6:58 pm to
Mizzou Football: Carrying the SEC Academically Since 2012
This post was edited on 6/11/13 at 6:58 pm
Posted by Patton
Principality of Sealand
Member since Apr 2011
32652 posts
Posted on 6/11/13 at 6:59 pm to
It's about time they did something worth a shite
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