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re: Analyzing Bo Jackson's 40 yard dash

Posted on 7/16/15 at 1:38 pm to
Posted by allin2010
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 1:38 pm to
The FACT remains, Bo was the fastest.. Amazing for his size...
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 1:38 pm to
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I don't think he would have any trouble beating anyone at the 10,20,30,40,50,60,70,80,90 or the 100


So your stance is that Bolt leads wire to wire when he runs?

(you would be dead wrong)
This post was edited on 7/16/15 at 1:40 pm
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
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Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 1:39 pm to
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He dominates the second half of his races.



He dominates from start to finish. Just becuase other world class sprinters aren't yet 10 feet behind him at the 40 is only because it takes time to show just how much faster he is.
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 1:40 pm to
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So your stance is that Bolt leads wire to wire when he runs?



World class sprinters , some being faster out of the gate may be near him at the 40. You are correct
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
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Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 1:41 pm to
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Football players are getting slower. Here is the proof: The eleven fastest times recorded at the combine were all from before 2000: Bo Jackson 4.12 Michael Bennett 4.13 Alexander Wright 4.14 Darrell Green 4.15 Ahman Green 4.17 Joey Galloway 4.18 Deion Sanders 4.21 Kevin Curtis 4.21 Don Beebe 4.21 Donte Stallworth 4.22 Willie Parker 4.23 No player among the thousands timed in the last 15 years has been able to crack that list.



Drops mic
Posted by logjamming
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 1:42 pm to
LINK

Some egg heads calculated that based on Bolt's 100m records, he'd run a sub-4 second forty yard dash.

Though, as the article correctly points out, running on turf without starting blocks would be completely different than running at a track event. I'd still put my money on Bolt to win a 40 yard foot race on any surface.
Posted by logjamming
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 1:44 pm to
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(*The fact that electronic timing was implemented in 2000 is purely coincidental and completely irrelevant)





Also, I know it wasn't at the combine, but wasn't Michigan found to have altered the field at their ProDay years back so their kids would run faster 40 times?
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 1:44 pm to
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I don't think he would have any trouble beating anyone at the 10,20,30,40,50,60,70,80,90 or the 100 but you know I tend to look at the gold medals and real evidence as my logic.


Wow, showing your ignorance again. You just can't help yourself today huh?

One more time, a person of Bolt's length isn't going to be as quick as a shorter man like Bo.

I guess you think Bolt would record the fastest shuttle time and cone drill one record as well huh?
Posted by logjamming
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 1:45 pm to
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I guess you think Bolt would record the fastest shuttle time and cone drill one record as well huh?



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Wow, showing your ignorance again


Because starting and stopping and lateral movements are the exact same as running full-bore from point A to point B.
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
Pensacola, Florida
Member since Dec 2013
15660 posts
Posted on 7/16/15 at 1:45 pm to
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Some egg heads calculated that based on Bolt's 100m records, he'd run a sub-4 second forty yard dash. Though, as the article correctly points out, running on turf without starting blocks would be completely different than running at a track event. I'd still put my money on Bolt to win a 40 yard foot race on any surface



Stop with your crazy logic suggesting Usain Bolt would win a 40 yard dash vs Bo Jackson. You crazy person you.
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
Pensacola, Florida
Member since Dec 2013
15660 posts
Posted on 7/16/15 at 1:47 pm to
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One more time, a person of Bolt's length isn't going to be as quick as a shorter man like Bo. I guess you think Bolt would record the fastest shuttle time and cone drill one record as well huh?



Olympians can't keep up with him at the 40, most races are over before they even start with Bolt.

LINK

He was never behind even with his percieved height disadvantage and even at 40 he appears to be a full step ahead of the entire field and he also goes on to dominate the race.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 7/16/15 at 1:49 pm to
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World class sprinters , some being faster out of the gate may be near him at the 40. You are correct



.......and you aren't.

start at 5:07
Posted by logjamming
Member since Feb 2014
7824 posts
Posted on 7/16/15 at 1:49 pm to
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Stop with your crazy logic suggesting Usain Bolt would win a 40 yard dash vs Bo Jackson. You crazy person you.




I kind of like the fact that there isn't definitive proof about a lot of this stuff. It helps add to the legend, which is part of the fun. Part of the reason Bo is considered one of the GOAT is because we never really know--his career ended so abruptly.

Not apples to apples, but it would be like trying to analyze Albert Pujols or Alex Rodriguez had their careers ended before they hit their 30th birthdays. Their career arcs would undoubtedly level off, but all we'd have to go on is their production at their peak, which is what we have with Bo.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43811 posts
Posted on 7/16/15 at 1:51 pm to
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Because starting and stopping and lateral movements are the exact same as running full-bore from point A to point B


It's no worse than saying the fastest man in the world at 100m has to be the fastest at 40 yards as well.

By that logic, the sprinters who run the 100m would all be running the 200m to the same exact result.
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
Pensacola, Florida
Member since Dec 2013
15660 posts
Posted on 7/16/15 at 1:52 pm to
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.......and you aren't.



He stumbled out of the gate you dumple head. He was behind the whole race because people got a .2 second jump on him.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43811 posts
Posted on 7/16/15 at 1:55 pm to
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He stumbled out of the gate you dumple head. He was behind the whole race because people got a .2 second jump on him


He didn't stumble you idiot, he was slow off the blocks. All that does is reaffirm what we've been saying about his ability to pull away in the final 50 meters.

The video you posted shows he was neither behind nor ahead of the pack at 50 meters, which proves his starts are average for a sprinter. Once again, reaffirming that Bolt's speed is all in the back end.

It's the reason he's the world record holder for 200m as well.
This post was edited on 7/16/15 at 1:58 pm
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
Pensacola, Florida
Member since Dec 2013
15660 posts
Posted on 7/16/15 at 1:57 pm to
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He didn't stumble you idiot, he was slow out of the gate. All that does is reaffirm what we've been saying about his ability to pull away in the final 50 meters.


He normally isn't that slow out of the gate . He struggled to get a start and you seen his eyes get huge because he got a horrible jumpb. I've seen a ton of his races and even against world class sprinters he is rarely behind if ever at the halfway point.


Just for reference for how bad his start was in that race.

LINK
This post was edited on 7/16/15 at 2:00 pm
Posted by logjamming
Member since Feb 2014
7824 posts
Posted on 7/16/15 at 1:58 pm to
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By that logic, the sprinters who run the 100m would all be running the 200m to the same exact result.



Funny you should mention that, because Bolt has also held world records in the 200m. Hmmm...
Posted by flyAU
Scottsdale
Member since Dec 2010
24848 posts
Posted on 7/16/15 at 1:59 pm to
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I would love to see video evidence of the 4.12 40. Would you care to provide?


Wait you started a thread analyzing his run and you don't have a video of it to analyze. So your analyzing your skepticism and downplaying what was reported. Got it. Please edit title.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43811 posts
Posted on 7/16/15 at 2:01 pm to
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Funny you should mention that, because Bolt has also held world records in the 200m. Hmmm...


I also mentioned the logic would require the rest of the 100m field to finish in the exact same order with the exact same splits. hmmmmm......

Please don't tell me you're that stupid. Bolt's 200m world record is proof that his strength is not in the start of the race, but in his ability to finish it.
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