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re: Alabamas defense is like a "big ten" defense.

Posted on 10/1/15 at 7:39 pm to
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
9419 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 7:39 pm to
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Harbaugh will never recruit at the level of Meyer. Not even close. If they win games against us it will not be because they were the more talented team.


bullshite. Just watch. Harbaugh as far as popularity is already more popular than Urban. And, with Harbaugh's success in the NFL he has something that's way more impressive to recruits than college football championships.
Posted by mightysooner
Phoenix, AZ
Member since Jun 2015
1252 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 7:40 pm to
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Wake me up when Big Game Bob plays for another national title.

Hell you guys were #1 for much of last year but your hero Trevor Knight choked the season away badly.

OU can still win some big games but they aren't a threat on the national scene and haven't been in a while.


Who was #1 for much of last season?!?!?! Sure as hell wasn't us.

I know, I know. Your feelings are hurt and you hate Bob so in your SEC collective, it's common knowledge that Bob Stoops is washed up because he went 8-5 last season and our program is in decline amirite? It's comforting to take emotional comfort in false narratives.
This post was edited on 10/1/15 at 7:41 pm
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35521 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 7:43 pm to
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bullshite. Just watch. Harbaugh as far as popularity is already more popular than Urban. And, with Harbaugh's success in the NFL he has something that's way more impressive to recruits than college football championships.




I'll take our coaches track record winning championships and recruiting over what Jimbo hasn't done. If you think for one second that Harbaugh is more popular or impressive to recruits than Meyer then I suggest that you take a look at Meyer's current and past recruiting rankings and get back with me.

Posted by Othello
the Neptonian Steel Mines
Member since Aug 2013
22925 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 7:47 pm to
Bob is a great coach but nobody is afraid of Oklahoma any more and I'd love to see how OU would have played if Alabama had been the team being disrespected and had lost 41-7 or whatever to a Big 12 team in the Cotton Bowl the year before and lost to Oklahoma State on possibly the biggest fluke play in college football history after leading by 14 with 3 mins left. Knocking them out of the championship against FSU.

I'm sure OU would have been super pumped for their Bowl game against Bama.

But hey congrats on that win, it was a nice win but we aren't still bragging about a win 2-3 years ago, we have long moved on, you guys would too if you had anymore big wins since then.
This post was edited on 10/1/15 at 7:48 pm
Posted by mightysooner
Phoenix, AZ
Member since Jun 2015
1252 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 7:54 pm to
I wasn't bragging about the win. I was offering my assistance as a service to Bama fans on why it happened, why it keeps happening, why everybody seems to think you're in decline, and nobody is afraid of you anymore.


It's because you're fat and slow.
Posted by LovetheLord
The Ash Grove
Member since Dec 2010
5618 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 7:59 pm to
Well that would be the issue. Their biggest win since has been to beat a Tennesee team that just blew another game to Florida. I'm sure OU had won their Super Bowl though.

The sad thing is that OU fans actually think that beating Bama a couple of years ago makes them relevant again. No one gives a flip about OU anymore.
Posted by Othello
the Neptonian Steel Mines
Member since Aug 2013
22925 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 8:02 pm to
Well we're still SEC champs for now, so I'll take it.

Saban has yet to lose to a bad team, even including 2007. Every team that has beat Bama lately has won at least 10 games. So I'll take it, can't win them all.

Plus I was just giving you some shite, because my gf and her family are Sooners and they've been giving me all kinds of shite the last two weeks.




Bama's problem isn't having guys that are too big and slow, it's the scheme Saban and Smart are using that's failing.

See if you have shitty dbs, you need a great pass rush to keep a QB from exploiting the dbs. Kevin Steele likes to blitz a lot, Bama needs that. The last few years, we've only been rushing 4 on most plays and 5 every now and then. So QBs have all day to throw and beat our shitty dbs.

We need to blitz, blitz, blitz because they say if you blitz too much you're vulnerable to the big play. Well we never fricking blitz and we're giving up tons of big plays to everyone we face.

Why can't Saban and Smart see that? Pisses me off. Blitz these fools, give up some big plays but you'll get more sacks and chances for turnovers.

You don't get turnovers playing 7 fricking deep.
This post was edited on 10/1/15 at 8:05 pm
Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
9341 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 8:09 pm to
Which is why the rain benefits them IMO.
Posted by Taurus 357
Great Lakes Gambler
Member since Dec 2014
3916 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 8:39 pm to
You act like Nola is Detroit.


Ummm, it's not all that much different actually. Just a warmer version really. I'm in Cleveland and I know what a ghetto is. Trust me... Don't flatter yourself. NoLa ain't much better.
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 8:43 pm to
Awwww, poor kitties. How many kittens are there actually.

Let me know how this works out for. You break the teens this year? Make midfield? Real questions.
Posted by mightysooner
Phoenix, AZ
Member since Jun 2015
1252 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 8:54 pm to
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The sad thing is that OU fans actually think that beating Bama a couple of years ago makes them relevant again. No one gives a flip about OU anymore.


LOL!!!! We don't really talk about that game anymore but okay. And you'll never be our "superbowl" under any circumstances, chief. We own your arse. That's just your arrogance frickin' witcha.

Nobody gives a flip about OU anymore because a Bama fan, and Paul Finenwrong, says so huh? How has that worked out for you?
This post was edited on 10/1/15 at 9:08 pm
Posted by Taurus 357
Great Lakes Gambler
Member since Dec 2014
3916 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 8:58 pm to
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Harbaugh's success in the NFL he has something that's way more impressive to recruits
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I have to agree. And I'm a Buckeye fan. He's going to build a great program up there. But to all the SEC, he's also going to come down South and steal a few. Michigan just won't only pluck from Ohio, Pennsylvania and Minnesota and Chicago anymore. As much as I love Urban's style, he's going to have to stay sharp on the field and with recruiting going forward.
Posted by mightysooner
Phoenix, AZ
Member since Jun 2015
1252 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 8:59 pm to
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Bama's problem isn't having guys that are too big and slow, it's the scheme Saban and Smart are using that's failing.

See if you have shitty dbs, you need a great pass rush to keep a QB from exploiting the dbs. Kevin Steele likes to blitz a lot, Bama needs that. The last few years, we've only been rushing 4 on most plays and 5 every now and then. So QBs have all day to throw and beat our shitty dbs.

We need to blitz, blitz, blitz because they say if you blitz too much you're vulnerable to the big play. Well we never fricking blitz and we're giving up tons of big plays to everyone we face.

Why can't Saban and Smart see that? Pisses me off. Blitz these fools, give up some big plays but you'll get more sacks and chances for turnovers.

You don't get turnovers playing 7 fricking deep.


I agree with everything you said here but recruiting big fat guys to clog running lanes is part of Saban's scheme. or at least it was. To hear him speak lately, seems like he's finally realized that the spread proposes unique challenges that his old scheme won't hold up against.

Never understood his no blitzing policy really, especially if you don't have a pass rush with your front 4. Pressure makes a difference. Any half arse WR can run through a bunch of 7 deep guys standing in a zone and any half arse QB is happy to wait for them to get open when he has that kind of time.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
23830 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 9:08 pm to
I agree with him about the Kiffin thing. Dude's ego is just.....
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
24264 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 9:28 pm to
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I agree. We look lost out there on Offense. Defense is solid at times but still gives up the big pass way too much.


We are starting two true freshman in this secondary. this defense is light years better than the last two yrs.
Posted by assassin18
Member since Sep 2015
499 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 9:12 am to
That's the one. Bama got embarrassed by a Big 12 team with a freshman quarterback. Oregon won their bowl against a Big 12 team, who coincidentally also beat Oklahoma.

Oregon was as good or better than Bama last year. I think Oregon would be happy to keep their last two seasons over Bama's.






Did you Ohio State people watch your game against us and your game against oregon? Oregon was not in the game against you guys after the first 5 minutes. Oregon consistently has been the most overrated program in the past 8 years. They slam the crap teams by putting up 70pts and when they play anyone with a pulse they can't do anything.


Whats so funny about the bama ohio state game is that everyone talks about ohio state steam rolling bama. It was 21-6 with 3rd down and 12 from your own 15 yard line in the middle of the second quarter. If you did not get the first down there we would have won by 4+ td's. THe game would have ended and y'all would still be irrelevant in college football. You made the play don't get me wrong, but the notion that ohio state steam rolled bama and oregon would have beaten bama. Just stupid statements.
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33937 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 2:09 pm to
Klatt made a pretty good point when he rattled off that stat about the 40+ point games Alabama has given up. Prior to 2013, they gave up 40+ points zero times in the previous 72 games. Since 2013, they've given up 40+ point five times in the last 45 games. And it's not due to lack of quality offenses either. They played Florida in 2008 when they were destroying everybody and Florida was held to 31 points. They played against a Georgia team with Stafford, Moreno and A.J. Green. Georgia scored 30 points in that game and most of those points came when the game was well out of hand. In 2010, they played against a really prolific offense in Auburn and Bama held them to 28 points. Petrino had really some prolific offenses at Arkansas and they never came close to putting up 40+ points against Bama. Even in their "bad" games against South Carolina in 2010 and Aggy in 2012, those teams were held to under 40 points. It's disturbing how bad the defense has gotten. I almost feel like Saban has to reinvent himself like Bryant did by switching to the wishbone offense in the early 70s. He needs to change his defensive schemes or tactics or recruiting strategy or something to counteract the hurry-up spread offense. If not, I don't see them ever reaching their previous level of dominance again.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35521 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 2:17 pm to
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everyone talks about ohio state steam rolling bama. It was 21-6 with 3rd down and 12 from your own 15 yard line in the middle of the second quarter.


People tend to say things like that when a team outscores the other 36-7. Even Saban said in the halftime interview that he didn't like the feel of the game at 21-6 because Alabama couldn't stop Ohio State.

Posted by assassin18
Member since Sep 2015
499 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 2:29 pm to
Just think as bad as you beat Alabama, with 7 minutes left in the game you punted to your 20 yard line and we threw a pick on the next play. What a butt whooping that game was.

You had 2 run plays on 80 yards a piece. I dont know where the gashing was besides those plays. You take those two plays out and elliot is under 100 yards rushing, and the passing numbers are the same.

So thats what I don't understand about the game that the ohio state fans want to always talk about. Yes you won the game. But don't act like y'all pounded us, and how oregon was better. We would have smacked oregon
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35521 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 3:28 pm to
You're the one that brought it up. Btw, there was one 85 yard run, not two. It's funny that your punter is the person that kept Alabama in the game but believe whatever makes it easier for you to sleep at night.
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