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re: Alabamas defense is like a "big ten" defense.

Posted on 10/1/15 at 3:58 pm to
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 10/1/15 at 3:58 pm to
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Name one team in the country that would trade the back-to-back years Bama had in 2013 and 2014 other than FSU or OSU.


Oregon
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65051 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 3:59 pm to
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Thats uncharacteristic of Saban teams. We used to not make mistakes. Whats going on down there?


Mistakes are going to happen and games are going to be played that make us look like crap. Bear Bryant himself had a lot of games like that. In 1977, close to the height of Alabama's dynasty in the 70s, we turned the ball over 5 times against Nebraska and lost 31-24. Turns out that was our only loss of the season, finishing the year at 11-1 and SEC champs.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 10/1/15 at 4:01 pm to
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Much, much more athletic than some Big Ten defenses.


Posted by mightysooner
Phoenix, AZ
Member since Jun 2015
1252 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 4:06 pm to
Idiotic media narratives:
Because they lost to Ole Miss: "Is the Alabama dynasty over?"

After they stuff Georgia Saturday: "Were we premature in writing off Alabama?"

Only thing I agree with on that stupid interview of two chuntering girly-men who never played the game in their lives is that Alabama's defense is fat and slow and can't tackle in space. Alabama's defense has always been fat and slow. Having to tackle faster, shiftier athletes in space only highlights how fat and slow Alabama is.

On offense they lost Yeldon and Cooper to the NFL. That's a lot of offensive production to lose.
Posted by CrimsonCrusade
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 10/1/15 at 4:11 pm to
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Colin Cowherd


Nope.
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 4:17 pm to
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Name one team in the country that would trade the back-to-back years Bama had in 2013 and 2014 other than FSU or OSU.

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Oregon


Really? The same Oregon team that played in the Valero Alamo Bowl in 2013 while Bama was in a BCS bowl? Their seasons last year were virtually identical - both ending with a loss to OSU - Oregon's by 22 and Bams's by 7.

Oregon is not a better program than Bama. Sorry, baw.
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 4:19 pm to
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We look like crap for a team full of 4 and 5 stars.


Looked like crap against Tennessee and AU in 2009, yet still won the games and won the title. Looked like crap against USCe in 2010 (and AU in the 2nd half that year), yet went on to win the next two national titles. Looked like crap in 1st half against A&M in 2012, yet won the conference and the title. Looked like crap against Arky last year, yet won the conference and appeared in first ever playoffs.

People are short-sighted to write Bama off. All I'm saying.
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 10/1/15 at 4:23 pm to
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Alabama's defense has always been fat and slow. Having to tackle faster, shiftier athletes in space only highlights how fat and slow Alabama is.

Bama has just been fortunate to not play against many good dynamic offenses. Oregon or Oklahoma State in 2011 would've given them problems.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71524 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 4:33 pm to
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Really? The same Oregon team that played in the Valero Alamo Bowl in 2013 while Bama was in a BCS bowl? Their seasons last year were virtually identical - both ending with a loss to OSU - Oregon's by 22 and Bams's by 7.


That's the one. Bama got embarrassed by a Big 12 team with a freshman quarterback. Oregon won their bowl against a Big 12 team, who coincidentally also beat Oklahoma.

Oregon was as good or better than Bama last year. I think Oregon would be happy to keep their last two seasons over Bama's.
Posted by BallstotheWesleyWall
Swagosphere
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 10/1/15 at 4:35 pm to
I don't even count Ohio State as the Big Ten anymore. They're so much more talented than the rest of the conference, it's obscene. Plus, their star running back is from Missouri, quarterback who should be starting is from Texas, star safety is from Georgia, star linebacker from Georgia, and all-world defensive end is from Florida.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71524 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 4:35 pm to
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Bama has just been fortunate to not play against many good dynamic offenses. Oregon or Oklahoma State in 2011 would've given them problems.


Agree. I think Oregon beats Bama last year as well.
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
20990 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 4:36 pm to
Uhh, no... People are really slamming the Bama defense. The Bama O is no longer a ball control offense, that puts the D on the field a lot.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71524 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 4:37 pm to
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I don't even count Ohio State as the Big Ten anymore.




OK then.
Posted by Purplengoldtigerfan
Eunice
Member since Sep 2015
906 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 4:37 pm to
I don't think they are done this season. I still think lsu/Alabama game will decide the SEC champion.
Posted by mightysooner
Phoenix, AZ
Member since Jun 2015
1252 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 4:47 pm to
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Bama has just been fortunate to not play against many good dynamic offenses. Oregon or Oklahoma State in 2011 would've given them problems.


Agree entirely. That 2011 Poke offense was no joke and Alabama wouldn't have "run them off the field" like one of their posters said on here yesterday.

A few years ago everybody was talking about SEC defensive speed and how fast everybody in that league was. LSU and Florida were the only defenses that I saw that had noticeable speed differentials, not Alabama. They were always big and assignment sound, but they never looked fast to me.
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 10/1/15 at 5:01 pm to
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Bama got embarrassed by a Big 12 team with a freshman quarterback

I know you went 12 years between national titles, so you may not understand this, but that team was chasing history and a Three-Peat. Once that was off the table, so too was their motivation. I was in Nola for the game and found myself feeling meh before kickoff as I had really hoped to be watching them chase history against FSU.

(Also, Bama out-gained that OU team by nearly 100 yards, but lost the turnover battle 5-1. Hard to beat teams like that, as Ole Miss reminded us this year).

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Oregon won their bowl against a Big 12 team, who coincidentally also beat Oklahoma.

Shite, dude. Bama would have killed that Texas team, too and I'm certain you know that. As for OU having lost to that Texas team, it seems you are a believer in transitive property applying to college football which makes this point:

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Oregon was as good or better than Bama last year.

Invalid since Bama and Oregon both played OSU. Bama had the ball with a chance to tie on final play of the game and Oregon was never really in the game against OSU.

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I think Oregon would be happy to keep their last two seasons over Bama's

They may very well be. They aren't used to the type of success Bama has had so that grand total of 1 more win over 2 years with same number of losses likely means the world to them. I'll stick with the success Bama has had in a tougher conference
Posted by mightysooner
Phoenix, AZ
Member since Jun 2015
1252 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 5:13 pm to
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but that team was chasing history and a Three-Peat. Once that was off the table, so too was their motivation.






Not this shite again.....

horseshite. I watched tape of the Sugar Bowl and tapes of all of Alabama's games during the season and there was ZERO difference in level of play or motivation. You were "meh" about the game but you traveled all the way to New Orleans huh?

There was plenty of motivation and that motivation was to blow out OU and embarrass Bob Stoops. You just failed to do so.
This post was edited on 10/1/15 at 5:14 pm
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71524 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 5:20 pm to
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I know you went 12 years between national titles, so you may not understand this, but that team was chasing history and a Three-Peat.




It wasn't that long ago that Bama was in the middle of a 17 year drought.

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Once that was off the table, so too was their motivation. I was in Nola for the game and found myself feeling meh before kickoff as I had really hoped to be watching them chase history against FSU.




Even better. You learn that at Saban's latest "Excuses for Losing Big Games" seminar?

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Shite, dude. Bama would have killed that Texas team, too and I'm certain you know that.


Oh yeah, I agree. They didn't, but Oklahoma did.

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As for OU having lost to that Texas team, it seems you are a believer in transitive property applying to college football


Not at all, hence "coincidentally".

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They may very well be. They aren't used to the type of success Bama has had so that grand total of 1 more win over 2 years with same number of losses likely means the world to them.


Go back, and read it all again. I was just pointing out that there are more than three teams who have been good for the last few years.

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I'll stick with the success Bama has had in a tougher conference.




There you go again.
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
9419 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 5:20 pm to
Bama runs a "Big Ten" defense?

I swear most of these pundits have a competition as to who can say the dumbest stuff and debate it.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71524 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 5:23 pm to
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Alabama's games during the season and there was ZERO difference in level of play or motivation.


They definitely looked disinterested.

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