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re: Alabama with only 8 NC's
Posted on 12/31/11 at 5:31 am to King
Posted on 12/31/11 at 5:31 am to King
You forgot to include the fact that Joe Namath crossed the goal line and scored the game-winning TD but Alabama was cheated out of the win by the corrupt Texas refs. Also, if you compare the box scores of the two games Alabama played Texas far tougher than Arkansas did. Alabama outgained Texas in total yardage (347-314) and first downs (18-15). Compare that to Arkansas who was outgained in yardage by Texas (263-136) and first downs (18-9). Going by those numbers, I'm pretty confident that Alabama would have beaten Arkansas on a neutral field that year.
This post was edited on 12/31/11 at 5:42 am
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Posted on 12/31/11 at 5:35 am to Unbiased Bama Fan
cause we all know that more yards = win...
Posted on 12/31/11 at 5:37 am to Teague
quote:I like you guys flashin all those zirconia titles.
We'll have 26 NC's after Jan 9th, bitches.
National Champs: 1925, 1926, 1930, 1934, 1936, 1937, 1941, 1945, 1950, 1961, 1962, 1963, 1964, 1965, 1966, 1973, 1974, 1975, 1977, 1978, 1979, 1980, 1991, 1992, 1994, 2009
I gives all those LSU wins over Bama that much more weight in voter's eyes.
Hype 'em up ESPiN!!!!
Posted on 12/31/11 at 5:40 am to glock22josh
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cause we all know that more yards = win...
Not necessarily but when you're doubled up in first downs and total yardage and get outgained on the ground 186-55, it's a pretty good indication that your team got dominated by the other team.
Posted on 12/31/11 at 5:42 am to Unbiased Bama Fan
You want to talk about cheating Texas Refs? Arkansas had to deal with them every game that whole year as members of the SWC. GTFSOH
Posted on 12/31/11 at 5:51 am to Unbiased Bama Fan
the best thing about this debate. Bama has had 1 coach that took them to more NC's than most schools have in their history 
Posted on 12/31/11 at 5:51 am to Unbiased Bama Fan
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Unbiased Bama Fan
Come on man. WVU had over 500 yards vs LSU this year and lost by 30. I understand the point you are making but unless they actually play the game any argument can be made to justify your position. You are not taking into account TO's or field conditions or a million other factors.
Posted on 12/31/11 at 5:53 am to fishcraze
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the best thing about this debate. Bama has had 1 coach that took them to more NC's than most schools have in their history
Are we talking about the cheater?
Too soon? Just joking. Congrats on that fact.
Posted on 12/31/11 at 5:58 am to Bricktop
Alabama has a storied program with many legit national championships. Whoever decided to celebrate all of those halfassed ones really did them a disservice.
13 NCs is a joke.
13 NCs is a joke.
Posted on 12/31/11 at 6:03 am to Unbiased Bama Fan
-----------------------A-------B
1st Downs.......19......13
3rd down eff..7-21.....1-9
4th down eff....1-2.....0-0
Total Yards....296.....237
Final Score?... 10......42
Stats, stats, stats.
1st Downs.......19......13
3rd down eff..7-21.....1-9
4th down eff....1-2.....0-0
Total Yards....296.....237
Final Score?... 10......42
Stats, stats, stats.
This post was edited on 12/31/11 at 6:20 am
Posted on 12/31/11 at 6:43 am to Mayhawman
LSU might have been been in the short end of the stick stats wise against West Virginia and Georgia but they weren't doubled up in yardage or first downs like Arkansas was against Texas.
Posted on 12/31/11 at 6:56 am to AllBamaDoesIsWin
If we lived in the overhyped exaggerated universe that is Gumpville, LSU would currently have 7
Posted on 12/31/11 at 7:16 am to Bricktop
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Why does Alabama claim 13?
Claiming 14 before the game is played would be disrespectful towards LSU.
Posted on 12/31/11 at 8:25 am to Bricktop
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Why does Alabama claim 13?
Because Stone Cold said so you chicken shite sons'a'bitches!
Posted on 12/31/11 at 8:28 am to LaBornNRaised
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Are we talking about the cheater?
Got a link?
(Hey Auburn fans, am I doing it right?)
Posted on 12/31/11 at 8:35 am to Unbiased Bama Fan
You can use all the stats you want as talking points my friend but at the end of the day the ONLY one that matters is the score.
ARKANSAS BEAT TEXAS
ALABAMA LOST TO TEXAS
You guys don't get that.
Say Bama outgaines LSU by 1000 yards on the 9th, but LSU has more points at the end ofof the game. Who wins? The one with the most points.
ARKANSAS BEAT TEXAS
ALABAMA LOST TO TEXAS
You guys don't get that.
Say Bama outgaines LSU by 1000 yards on the 9th, but LSU has more points at the end ofof the game. Who wins? The one with the most points.
Posted on 12/31/11 at 8:51 am to CapstoneGrad06
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That's what is great about the Auburn fan calling out some of Alabama's poll titles that were awarded before bowl games, under the process at the time. AU's 1957 AP title was awarded to them when they were on a post-season ban.
Gumps tend to struggle with reading comprehension I suppose. I consider a legit NC to be when you are the most deserving and best team in the country. AU was that in 1957.
Posted on 12/31/11 at 8:52 am to fishcraze
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the best thing about this debate. Bama has had 1 coach that took them to more NC's than most schools have in their history
Who? Talking about Bryant?
He had two legit NCs. 1961 and 1979. That is about it. Like the piglet has already stated, 1964 and many others they claim are garbage as bama was not the best and most deserving team.
Posted on 12/31/11 at 8:55 am to AllBamaDoesIsWin
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False. Most of the country doesn't make stupid arguments like that, they know Bama has 13. Get over it. Bama has 8 in the poll era sure, but that doesn't mean the other five aren't official, the media recognizes, football fans recognize it, it's official.
If you keep saying something over and over and over again it somehow becomes "official". That doesn't mean that it is "correct" or "right".
You people have said this so many times that you now have convinced yourselves that it is true.
Sure........Has Bama had an extremely, successful football history and won more championships than virtually everybody else? Absolutely!
But, to claim NC's that simply didn't exist at the time and retroactively claim them is pathetic at best. 1925, 1926, and 1930 were all retroactive titles that never existed.
In 1934 the AP (who was the legitimate college football ranking at the time along with 29 other services ranked Minnesota #1, but Bama "claims" this year as a NC.
In 1941 Bama finished with 2 losses and #20 in the final AP Poll. One minor service based out of Birmingham decided to rank Bama #1, so Bama "claims" this as another one of the 13 NC's.
1964, Bama loses to Texas in the Orange Bowl, but since that "loss" doesn't count, Bama is NC. Even though Arky beats Texas that year and goes undefeated.
I think I love the "claim" of winning the National Championship by Bama in 1973 the best. Let's see.......both Bama and Notre Dame are 10-0 and play each other in the Sugar Bowl. Notre Dame beats Bama to finish the season 11-0 to Bama's 10-1. But, Bama "claims" another NC.
Bama's 1978 NC is about as legit as every other championship claimed in the past 30 years, but is still highly questionable. Both USC and Bama finish 11-1. USC beats Bama head to head in season and AP declares USC National Champion, but for some reason the UPI decides Bama should "share" the title.
Whatever floats your boat Bama. You have been very successful and should be extremely proud of your history. Just no reason to tarnish such a great history with made up and retroactive titles.
Posted on 12/31/11 at 9:00 am to drexyl
We have so many we can't keep up. Not a problem at LSWho.
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