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re: Alabama hasn't played anyone

Posted on 11/16/15 at 3:07 pm to
Posted by Kcoyote
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 3:07 pm to
And you're relying on three games to make your entire season. Don't lose sight of that.

Plus now you're going to use "ranked at the time" when you beat these teams. It's gonna be hilarious. "OH WE BEAT THREE TOP TEN TEAMS!"


Then we all get to come in and say, "well not really, they're not top 10 anymore."

Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 3:09 pm to
I mean, is anyone seriously saying we haven't had a Top 10 schedule? We play in the West, which even if you think it is overrated, is still one of the Top 2 divisions in football. In addition we played Georgia and Tennessee from the East, plus two bowl teams in the OOC in Wisconsin and MTSU. Finally, we'd play Florida in the SECCG.

So, yea, not sure anybody who would have a tougher more competitive schedule over the course of a season than that.
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 3:12 pm to
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You dumbasses are relying on shite like ESPN FPI and "strength of record" to make your points. Don't lose sight of that.


I'm curious. How does the defending national champion eek out a 7 point win over NIL? I mean, for a Gang of Five team, they're...okay. At least 7-3 would be okay for a power conference team. For a lower-tier, not so much. They did help Toledo's free-fall and gave Central Michigan a game of it, managing to close it to a 10 point margin at the end of the game. But have y'all just run out of luck or something?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 3:12 pm to
quote:

d you're relying on three games to make your entire season. Don't lose sight of that.


Well, no not really. We're 10-0. You forget that?

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Plus now you're going to use "ranked at the time" when you beat these teams. It's gonna be hilarious. "OH WE BEAT THREE TOP TEN TEAMS!"


We'll see where they're ranked. Remember when Auburn was #6. That's the kind of stupid shite you point to, then wonder why someone calls you on it.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 3:14 pm to
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We'll see where they're ranked. Remember when Auburn was #6. That's the kind of stupid shite you point to, then wonder why someone calls you on it.


Well, if you beat Michigan and Michigan State they will both drop out of the Top 10. So, pick your poison I guess.
Posted by Kcoyote
Member since Jan 2012
12050 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 3:16 pm to
And thank god no Alabama fan is going to claim a win over #6 Auburn after the Iron Bowl.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71710 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 3:17 pm to
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And thank god no Alabama fan is going to claim a win over #6 Auburn after the Iron Bowl.


They would if it was played in September and you know it.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 3:17 pm to
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They would if it was played in September and you know it.


Haven't seen any Alabama people claiming a Top 10 win over UGA in Athens or a Top 10 win over Texas A&M.

They are wins over teams that will finish 8-4 and 9-3, probably. Still good wins. Not Top 10 wins.

This post was edited on 11/16/15 at 3:18 pm
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71710 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 3:18 pm to
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Well, if you beat Ann Arbor and Michigan State they will both drop out of the Top 10. So, pick your poison I guess.


Probably, but an 11-2 Michigan State team probably finished top ten, and a 10-3 Ann Arbor wouldn't be far off.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71710 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 3:18 pm to
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Haven't seen any Alabama people claiming a Top 10 win over UGA in Athens or a Top 10 win over Texas A&M.


You aren't looking hard enough. There are literally two of them posting in this thread.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 3:19 pm to
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Probably, but an 11-2 Michigan State team probably finished top ten, and a 10-3 Ann Arbor wouldn't be far off.


But records and rankings post-bowl don't really matter to this discussion.

10-2 Michigan State will be ranked somewhere between 10-15 and 9-3 Michigan will be ranked somewhere between 13-20. 12-1 Iowa probably somewhere between 7-10 depending on how they look in the game.
This post was edited on 11/16/15 at 3:20 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 3:20 pm to
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You aren't looking hard enough. There are literally two of them posting in this thread.


Just read through every post in this thread and there is nothing even close to that. Maybe you could point it out.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 3:22 pm to
SEC is crap this year. When you have a team that loses to Toledo, will finish 2nd in the West, that tells you a lot.
Posted by Kcoyote
Member since Jan 2012
12050 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 3:22 pm to
Not sure why Michigan is even ranked at 14 right now. They almost beat MSU, and that's their claim to fame? They have a loss to Utah as well.


Either way, you can count that as a top 10 win, but it'll be just as funny as counting Georgia when they both finish 9-3.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71710 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 3:23 pm to
quote:

But records and rankings post-bowl don't really matter to this discussion.


This is an ongoing discussion.

quote:

10-2 Michigan State will be ranked somewhere between 10-15 and 9-3 Michigan will be ranked somewhere between 13-20. 12-1 Iowa probably somewhere between 7-10 depending on how they look in the game.


I agree. Now, I wonder where LSU, Georgia, and A&M will be ranked.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71710 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 3:24 pm to
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Just read through every post in this thread and there is nothing even close to that. Maybe you could point it out.


As I said, ongoing. I'm not digging for it. Maybe they'll fess up.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 3:26 pm to
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Now, I wonder where LSU, Georgia, and A&M will be ranked.


End of the regular season?

- LSU (say they finish 9-3) probably #19 or so
- Georgia (say they finish 9-3) probably #20 or so
- Texas A&M (say they finish 8-4) probably unranked
- Wisconsin will be ranked in the top 20
- Florida will be ranked in the Top 15 or Top 10
- Tennessee will be ranked in the 20-25 range
- State or Arkansas, depending on who wins out, will probably be ranked in the 20-25 range

So wins over #10, #15, #19, #20, #22, #25 plus wins over bowl bound 6-6 Auburn, 7-5 MTSU and bowl bound either Arky/MSU.

9 wins over bowl teams. Pretty decent.
This post was edited on 11/16/15 at 3:29 pm
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71710 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 3:26 pm to
quote:

Not sure why Ann Arbor is even ranked at 14 right now. They almost beat MSU, and that's their claim to fame? They have a loss to Utah as well.


They had a string of very impressive defensive performances, and that's about it. Maybe just to keep their fans from abandoning the team.

quote:

Either way, you can count that as a top 10 win, but it'll be just as funny as counting Georgia when they both finish 9-3.


I'll count them as what they are, same as you should be doing.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 3:27 pm to
Yeah, well - Ohio State fans wear jerseys to games and tie sweaters and jackets around their waists like women.

Saw it first hand. Embarrassing.
Posted by Kcoyote
Member since Jan 2012
12050 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 3:30 pm to
quote:

LSU, Georgia, and A&M will be ranked.


LSU finishes 9-2
Georgia finishes 9-3
TAMU finishes 8-4
Florida finishes 11-2

But you're leaving out:
Wisconsin finishes 10-2
Arkansas, MSU, Tennessee all could finish anywhere from 7-5 to 9-3.

So, yeah. Use rankings when they're in your favor, but ignore actual records.

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