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re: Alabama fans - Question about the 1973 Sugar Bowl
Posted on 2/22/16 at 9:01 am to Roses of Crimson
Posted on 2/22/16 at 9:01 am to Roses of Crimson
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I LOOOOVE how on that USC 1978 game which was awarded by the UPI, you call them a co-champion but don't want recognize Bama's UPI title in 1973. Typical Vol stupidity or ignorance.
I know you are a Bammer and stupid, but they beat you on the field.
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Oh, and later on that season SC was BLOWN OUT by Arizona State
You lost to them. You just proved my point. THEY BEAT YOU ON THE FIELD!
:lol: :lol: :lol:
This post was edited on 2/22/16 at 9:05 am
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Posted on 2/22/16 at 9:06 am to Hometown Hero
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Because two teams were picked as champion.
Two weeks later those teams met on the field (you know, where who is the best team is decided).
One team won.
Like a playoff or college Super Bowl.
So you agree that Tennessee has 1 national title then, right?
1938 - 11-0 & won the Orange Bowl but finished #2 in AP Poll
1950 - finished #3 in the coaches and #4 in the AP
1951 - finished #1 in AP and Coaches polls, however they lost the Sugar Bowl to #3 Maryland.
1967 - finished #2 in the coaches, #2 in the AP and lost the Orange Bowl to Oklahoma
So, I guess Alabama only has 9 then (1961, 1964, 1965, 1979, 1992, 2009, 2011, 2012, 2015). I can live with that.
This post was edited on 2/22/16 at 9:09 am
Posted on 2/22/16 at 9:08 am to Hometown Hero
Look out folks we have ourselves an e-badass.
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Don't you live in Knoxville?
I'll be up there several weekends in the fall, if you would like to meet up for drinks and discuss your feelings.
I didn't think so, midget boy.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 9:09 am to Hometown Hero
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Hometown Hero
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He's not young. Just old and dumb. With white trash sibling.
Hush up, you snitching midget.
LMAO, nice edit.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 9:14 am to Wranglerinbama
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Don't you live in Knoxville? I'll be up there several weekends in the fall, if you would like to meet up for drinks and discuss your feelings. I didn't think so, midget boy.
That sounds just like something a Savage would say.
I miss that ignorant, racist, dumb son of donkey fricked bitch.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 9:27 am to cajunbama
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cajunbama
How did you get your northalabamacracker name banned?
Posted on 2/22/16 at 9:29 am to Wranglerinbama
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nice edit.
Edit this...
1925 - retroactively claimed championship
1926 - retroactively claimed championship
1930 - retroactively claimed championship
1934 - retroactively claimed championship
1941 - BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
1973 - beaten on the field by the other co-champion
1978 - beaten on the field by the other co-champion
FACTS:
1925 National Championship- Alabama claims they share this one with Dartmouth. Who awarded the NC? Houlgate and Helms. Houlgate started his system in 1927. So Bama won their 1925 NC using a formula that didn’t exist until 1927? Helms Athletic Foundation started in 1941. Another incredible retroactive NC. (no one claimed 1925, let's jump back 15 years and claim it
) 1926 National Championship- Alabama claims they share this one with 3 other teams with equal or better records! Once again it is the Helms Athletic Foundation in 1941 that awards it! (15 years AFTER the fact)
The Associated Press Poll has been active since 1936. The AP took their final poll prior to bowl games from 1936 – 1964 and in 1966 and 1967. They took their final poll after the bowl games in 1965 and from 1968 – Current.
1930 National Championship- The Davis poll says that Bama tied Notre Dame for NC this year. This was the only one to award it to Bama. Notre Dame was named NC in 6 polls! Parke Davis is another retroactive system! He (an individual, not an organization) did his in 1933! (one guy proclaimed you champions...hang a banner
) 1934 National Championship- Alabama says they share this with two other teams. The awarders are Dunkel, Williamson, and Football Thesaurus. Dunkel was an individual who came up with his own system. Williamson was a geologist who came up with his own system. Football Thesaurus first appeared in 1946! (even better...a geologist names you champions a dozen years later...print the rings
) 1941 National Championship- This is a complete joke. The AP ranked Alabama 20th in the nation with 14 teams with better records in the top 20. Once again it is the Football Thesaurus that retroactively awards it. Alabama finished 3rd in the SEC that year. Mississippi State won the SEC title..yet Bama claims a National title! (what a joke
) 1973 National Championship- AP puts Bama 4th after their bowl game loss. Bama claims a NC from the UPI poll that was taken before they met Notre Dame in the bowl game and lost. There were 3 teams with better records than Bama that year. The embarrassment of naming Alabama number one caused the UPI to name champions after bowl games. Yet Bammer has no shame in claiming it of course. (beaten on the field by the real champion)
1978 National Championship- AP gives this to Alabama(11-1-0) even though USC (12-1-0) had the better record Guess who Alabama lost to that year? USC!!!!!!!!!. UPI gave the NC to USC. (beaten on the field by the real champion)
YOUR media guide. 6+5=16
I'm still waiting on a rebuttal that makes sense.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 10:23 am to Hometown Hero
So by your logic only undefeated teams get National Champions. Your head must of exploded in 2011.
Good to know.
Good to know.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 10:27 am to LC412000
My mom was from Alabama and she was always an Alabama fan so they were always my second favorite. This game and the following year's Orange Bowl loss to Notre Dame - again, were two terribly disappointing games.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 10:28 am to Hometown Hero
We are still waiting on your answer about Tenn National Titles. Care to Answer?
Posted on 2/22/16 at 10:39 am to Hometown Hero
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I'm still waiting on a rebuttal that makes sense.
Simple contact the NCAA and have them change there record books. They say 14.
Championship History
YEAR CHAMPION SELECTING ORGANIZATION
2015 (14) Alabama CFP
2014 Ohio State CFP
2013 Florida State BCS
2012 (13) Alabama BCS
2011 (12) Alabama BCS
2010 Auburn BCS
2009 (11) Alabama BCS
2008 Florida BCS
2007 Louisiana State BCS
2006 Florida BCS
2005 Texas BCS
2004 Southern California BCS
2003 Louisiana State, Southern California BCS, AP, FWAA
2002 Ohio State BCS
2001 Miami (Fla.) BCS
2000 Oklahoma BCS
1999 Florida State BCS
1998 Tennessee BCS
1997 Michigan, Nebraska AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/ESPN
1996 Florida AP, FWAA, NFF,USA/CNN
1995 Nebraska AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI
1994 Nebraska AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI
1993 Florida St. AP, FWAA,NFF, USA/CNN, UPI
1992 (10)Alabama AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI
1991 Washington, Miami (Fla.) FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI,AP
1990 Colorado, Georgia Tech FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, AP, UPI
1989 Miami (Fla.) AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI
1988 Notre Dame AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI
1987 Miami (Fla.) AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI
1986 Penn St. AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI
1985 Oklahoma AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI
1984 Brigham Young AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI
1983 Miami (Fla.) AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI
1982 Penn St. AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI
1981 Clemson AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
1980 Georgia AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
1979 (9)Alabama AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
1978 (8)Alabama, Southern California AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
1977 Notre Dame AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
1976 Pittsburgh AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
1975 Oklahoma AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
1974 Southern California, Oklahoma FWAA, NFF, UPI, AP
1973 Notre Dame, (7)Alabama AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
1972 Southern California AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
1971 Nebraska AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
1970 Nebraska, Texas, Ohio St. AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI, NFF
1969 Texas AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
1968 Ohio St. AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
1967 Southern California AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
1966 Notre Dame, Michigan St. AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI, NFF
1965 Michigan St.,(6) Alabama FWAA, NFF, UPI, AP
1964 (5) Alabama, Arkansas,Notre DameAP, UPI, FWAA, NFF
1963 Texas AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
1962 Southern California AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
1961 (4) Alabama, Ohio St. AP, NFF, UPI, FWAA
1960 Minnesota, Mississippi AP, NFF, UPI, FWAA
1959 Syracuse AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
1958 LSU, Iowa AP, UPI, FWAA
1957 Ohio St., Auburn FWAA, UPI, AP
1956 Oklahoma AP, FWAA, UPI
1955 Oklahoma AP, FWAA, UPI
1954 UCLA, Ohio St. FWAA, UPI, AP
1953 Maryland AP, UPI
1952 Michigan St. AP, UPI
1951 Tennessee AP, UPI
1950 Oklahoma AP, UPI
1949 Notre Dame AP
1948 Michigan AP
1947 Notre Dame AP
1946 Notre Dame AP
1945 Army AP
1944 Army AP
1943 Notre Dame AP
1942 Ohio St. AP
1941 Minnesota AP
1940 Minnesota AP
1939 Texas A&M AP
1938 Texas Christian AP
1937 Pittsburgh AP
1936 Minnesota AP
1935 Minnesota CFRA, HAF, NCF
1934 Minnesota CFRA, HAF, NCF
1933 Michigan CFRA, HAF, NCF
1932 Southern California CFRA, HAF, NCF
1931 Southern California CFRA, HAF, NCF
1930 (3) Alabama, Notre Dame CFRA, HAF, NCF
1929 Notre Dame CFRA, HAF, NCF
1928 Georgia Tech. CFRA, HAF, NCF
1927 Illinois, Yale HAF, NCF, CFRA
1926 (2) Alabama, Stanford CFRA, HAF, NCF, HAF
1925 (1) Alabama CFRA, HAF, NCF
1924 Notre Dame CFRA, HAF, NCF
1923 Illinois, Michigan CFRA, HAF, NCF, NCF
1922 California, Cornell Princeton, NCF, HAF, CFRA, NCF
1921 California, Cornell CFRA, NCF, HAF
1920 California CFRA, HAF, NCF
1919 Harvard, Illinois, Notre Dame, Texas A&M CFRA, HAF, NCF, CFRA, NCF, NCF
1918 Michigan, Pittsburg NCF, HAF, NCF
1917 Georgia Tech. HAF, NCF
1916 Pittsburgh HAF, NCF
1915 Cornell HAF, NCF
1914 Army HAF, NCF
1913 Harvard HAF, NCF
1912 Harvard, Penn St. HAF, NCF, NCF
1911 Penn St., Princeton NCF, HAF, NCF
1910 Harvard, Pittsburgh HAF, NCF, NCF
1909 Yale HAF, NCF
1908 LSU, Pennsylvania NCF, HAF, NCF
1907 Yale HAF, NCF
1906 Princeton HAF, NCF
1905 Chicago HAF, NCF
1904 Michigan, Pennsylvania NCF, HAF, NCF
1903 Michigan, Princeton NCF, HAF, NCF
1902 Michigan HAF, NCF
1901 Michigan HAF, NCF
1900 Yale HAF, NCF
1899 Harvard HAF, NCF
1898 Harvard HAF, NCF
1897 Pennsylvania HAF, NCF
1896 Lafayette, Princeton NCF, HAF, NCF
1895 Pennsylvania HAF, NCF
1894 Yale HAF, NCF
1893 Princeton HAF, NCF
1892 Yale HAF, NCF
1891 Yale HAF, NCF
1890 Harvard HAF, NCF
1889 Princeton HAF, NCF
1888 Yale HAF, NCF
1887 Yale HAF, NCF
1886 Yale HAF, NCF
1885 Princeton HAF, NCF
1884 Yale HAF, NCF
1883 Yale HAF, NCF
1882 Yale NCF,1881, Yale,NCF
1880 Princeton, Yale NCF, NCF
1879 Princeton NCF
1878 Princeton NCF
1877 Yale NCF
1876 Yale NCF
1875 Harvard NCF
1874 Yale NCF
1873 Princeton NCF
1872 Princeton NCF
1871 None selected NCF
1870 Princeton NCF
1869 Princeton NCF
I am sure they care what you think about it.
NCAA
This post was edited on 2/22/16 at 10:41 am
Posted on 2/22/16 at 12:39 pm to LC412000
About the game and not arguing about national championships, the game was a fantastic one. It had stopped raining right before the game but I remember being stuck on hwy 11 bridge and it was coming down in buckets. The temp also dropped like 20 degrees after the rain had quit.
Basically, we couldn't stop ND when we had to. I also believe had we played Todd the entire game we might win. ND was struggling mightily when he was in. He was more mistake prone but was big time as he would prove later on. Rutledge was the calculating, textbook guy but ND was by far the best team we had played and we needed athletes to match them and Todd would have brought that. We also needed Wayne Wheeler to step up big in this game as ND sold out on the run and Wheeler was not very effective.
In the first two national title games against ND they just had a better team, much like we were just better in '12. I would have loved to have seen what we could do with Todd in 73 but we played them again the next season in the Orange bowl with Todd and lost again. ND was just a little better than us at that time.
I'll tell you what, nobody and I mean nobody sat down for one second in that game. To this day, it's the best game I've ever been to in person. Only the SC-Texas national championship was a better one. That old rickety stadium in uptown was vibrating the whole game. It was an atmosphere that you rarely see. I hated that we lost but am glad I was there for one of college football's all-time classic games.
Basically, we couldn't stop ND when we had to. I also believe had we played Todd the entire game we might win. ND was struggling mightily when he was in. He was more mistake prone but was big time as he would prove later on. Rutledge was the calculating, textbook guy but ND was by far the best team we had played and we needed athletes to match them and Todd would have brought that. We also needed Wayne Wheeler to step up big in this game as ND sold out on the run and Wheeler was not very effective.
In the first two national title games against ND they just had a better team, much like we were just better in '12. I would have loved to have seen what we could do with Todd in 73 but we played them again the next season in the Orange bowl with Todd and lost again. ND was just a little better than us at that time.
I'll tell you what, nobody and I mean nobody sat down for one second in that game. To this day, it's the best game I've ever been to in person. Only the SC-Texas national championship was a better one. That old rickety stadium in uptown was vibrating the whole game. It was an atmosphere that you rarely see. I hated that we lost but am glad I was there for one of college football's all-time classic games.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 12:52 pm to Hometown Hero
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I'm still waiting on a rebuttal that makes sense.
How about your rebuttal concerning Tennessee retroactively awarding itself national championships for the same reasons Alabama did?
Tennessee has a mere 2 consensus national championships (1951 and 1998) and yet they claim 6 national titles. Why is that?
For the supposed second best program in the history of the conference your program sure does a lot of reaching to claim national titles in the poll era that it clearly did not earn.
This post was edited on 2/22/16 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 2/22/16 at 1:31 pm to RollTide1987
I wonder what SavageOrangeJug did to get banned and had to come back on here as HometownHero?
Posted on 2/22/16 at 1:35 pm to AlabamaAlum07
quote:he said it would be "fun to kill" a certain Ole Miss poster.
I wonder what SavageOrangeJug did to get banned and had to come back on here as HometownHero?
This is like his 4th alter attempt. Disturbed people like him shouldn't be allowed to post.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 1:43 pm to TT9
I remember when I first joined and he got busted for posing as a Marine.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 1:45 pm to AlabamaAlum07
He's a sad fellow.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 1:54 pm to AlabamaAlum07
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I wonder what SavageOrangeJug did to get banned and had to come back on here as HometownHero?
The better question is why is HometownHero still around when everybody knows he's SavageOrangeJug. Hell, Phan does a better job of hiding his alters.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 11:05 pm to oneusairman
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why are fixated on other people's genitals?
It is Jug. He appears to have a thing for it.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 7:23 am to JustGetItRight
I see Hero still hasn't addressed the fact that his system of determining a champion eliminates all but 1 UT National Championship. Sad days in Knoxville.
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