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re: AJ McCarron possibly to Denver?
Posted on 3/10/16 at 1:39 pm to Rhino5
Posted on 3/10/16 at 1:39 pm to Rhino5
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21 games played in
14 of those games were total mop up duty his first 4 years. Before this season he had thrown 30 passes in 3 seasons, the most in a single season being 16.
His only real in game experience was 2015.
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Posted on 3/10/16 at 1:39 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
So you agree with his terrible idea that Denver should pay AJ $48 million over 4 years? FWIW I think AJ will and should get a chance somewhere, but fricking $48 million? Laughable.
Posted on 3/10/16 at 1:39 pm to idlewatcher
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As a Texans fan and someone living in Houston, we are not stupid enough to believe he merits that pay increase. It's just the market for a guy like him right now. Pay up or get screwed again with 4 different starting QB's.
The market for QB's is horribly inflated at this point. That's why I said, in my entirely hypothetical scenario in which the Broncos look to sign McCarron as a starter, that they could get him for 10-12 million per year.
Posted on 3/10/16 at 1:40 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Like I said I was impressed and think AJ should and will get a starting job somewhere but paying him $10-$12 million a year based off that, hell no.
Posted on 3/10/16 at 1:41 pm to Rhino5
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Denver should pay AJ $48 million over 4 years
That would put him 22nd in the NFL at average pay per year, right behind Andy Dalton ($16M) and right in front of Nick Foles ($12.27M). He would basically be the 2nd to last highest paid starter in the league.
It would all depend on guarantees, but in light of the market and current QB pay scale that doesn't seem insane, no.
Posted on 3/10/16 at 1:42 pm to GIbson05
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Not a whole lot out there in free agency QBs right now.
or in the draft. Really shitty time for QBs
Posted on 3/10/16 at 1:42 pm to Rhino5
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So you agree with his terrible idea that Denver should pay AJ $48 million over 4 years?
With each post you make it more obvious you have no idea how any of this works.
Posted on 3/10/16 at 1:43 pm to Rhino5
I think Osweiler got a great deal based on the market.
I think McCarron could get a similar deal based on the market.
I think McCarron could get a similar deal based on the market.
Posted on 3/10/16 at 1:44 pm to Rhino5
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AJ should and will get a starting job somewhere but paying him $10-$12 million a year based off that
Non-Rookie Contract QB (starters or paid as a starter at the time of deal)
Brock Osweiler - 4 years, $72M ($18M a year)
Sam Bradford - 2 years, $35M ($17.5M a year)
Alex Smith - 4 years, $68M ($17M a year)
Andy Dalton - 6 years, $96M ($16M a year)
Nick Foles - 2 years, $24.5M ($12.3M a year)
I mean, he'd be one of if not the lowest paid non-rookie starter in the league. It would fit.
Posted on 3/10/16 at 1:44 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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That would put him 22nd in the NFL at average pay per year, right behind Andy Dalton ($16M) and right in front of Nick Foles ($12.27M). He would basically be the 2nd to last highest paid starter in the league.
I'm sorry but he's not Andy Dalton or Nick Foles. He can be but it'd be a HUGE gamble IMO.
Posted on 3/10/16 at 1:45 pm to Rhino5
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Like I said I was impressed and think AJ should and will get a starting job somewhere but paying him $10-$12 million a year based off that, hell no.
The going rate for a starting QB in the NFL going forward is $15 million per year, at minimum.
What don't you understand about that?
Posted on 3/10/16 at 1:46 pm to GIbson05
McCarron is a fig.
Posted on 3/10/16 at 1:46 pm to Rhino5
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He can be but it'd be a HUGE gamble IMO
Welcome to the world of trying to find a starting QB
Posted on 3/10/16 at 1:47 pm to Rhino5
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I'm sorry but he's not Andy Dalton or Nick Foles. He can be but it'd be a HUGE gamble IMO.
God you're fricking stupid.
Brock Osweiler isn't proven to be either of those guys, yet he just inked a $72 million dollar deal.
I honestly don't understand how this is so complicated for you. It's actually very simple.
Posted on 3/10/16 at 1:47 pm to Rhino5
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Nick Foles
I mean, if he isn't Nick Foles then he shouldn't be starting at QB in the NFL.
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He can be but it'd be a HUGE gamble IMO.
You can't bring a guy in to be the starting QB and pay him like you pay a backup QB, especially on a long deal.
They have to pay him at least $9-10M. They can't give him the same deal Chase Daniel gets to be a backup.
Posted on 3/10/16 at 1:47 pm to Rhino5
Will McCarron probably be bad? Yeah. But teams are so desperate for QB's he will get a chance and get paid a lot of money. Teams are willing to take big gambles on QB's because other teams never let go of good QB's once they get them.
Posted on 3/10/16 at 1:48 pm to Eric Nies Grind Time
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Will McCarron probably be bad? Yeah. But teams are so desperate for QB's he will get a chance and get paid a lot of money. Teams are willing to take big gambles on QB's because other teams never let go of good QB's once they get them.
And Denver, because of their success, has no shot at drafting a QB at all, led alone a "good one". So, they have to find one another way, meaning they have to pay a premium for it and probably overpay.
This post was edited on 3/10/16 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 3/10/16 at 1:50 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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I mean, he'd be one of if not the lowest paid non-rookie starter in the league. It would fit.
Like I said I'm of the opinion that he should and will get a shot as a starter, not now though. And yes he would be the lowest of the low in contract pay... Not the median.
Posted on 3/10/16 at 1:52 pm to Rhino5
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Like I said I'm of the opinion that he should and will get a shot as a starter, not now though. And yes he would be the lowest of the low in contract pay... Not the median.
But Denver would be hiring him to be the starting QB. So, they have to pay him more than the top paid backup, and less than the lowest paid (non-rookie contract) starter.
That would put him at somewhere between $8-12M a year, probably. However, all that would really matter is length of deal and guaranteed payment. My guess is he'd get like a 3 year/$30M deal or something along those lines.
This post was edited on 3/10/16 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 3/10/16 at 1:56 pm to Irons Puppet
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Denver can not expect to win with average QB play in the future. They will not even get that with AJ.
You're an idiot.
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