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re: Aggies and Mizzou fans: Differences between the SEC & Big 12

Posted on 11/5/12 at 10:37 pm to
Posted by Fuzzy
Member since Oct 2012
100 posts
Posted on 11/5/12 at 10:37 pm to
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I was alluding to the fact that many of your fans preseason claimed that the SEC wasn't really that much better top to bottom than the Big 12.

Do you believe now?? DO YOU?!?!
The top of the SEC is much stronger, but the bottom isn't. Kansas is worse than any SEC team, but the 7-9 teams would probably 3-0 UT, Auburn, and Kentucky.

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Kentucky would beat Kansas by 50 and Auburn would destroy Baylor.
Kentucky would beat Kansas, but not by 50. Baylor would beat Auburn by 2 touchdowns. Baylor's defense sucks, but a few tackling dummies and a stiff breeze could move the ball more efficiently than Auburn's offense. Iowa State would also be 7-2 if they had the Grinders' schedule. They would probably finish 8-4 (perhaps 9-3, but I would consider Ole Miss a mild upset), but the same thing can be said about Moo State.

And Mizzou would be hurting just as bad in the Big XII. They wouldn't beat KSU or OU and they would probably split or go 2-4 against Texas, Oklahoma State, TCU, Tech, Iowa State, and WVU.

The difference between the conferences is at the top to the middle. If you matched up the bottom of the conferences, they match up very well, if not tilted slightly to the Big XII.


As for the fan bases, I honestly don't think it's all that different, but the SEC is on a much bigger scale. The amount of fans and amount of money involved is increased exponentially.

The hate is also a lot less..... real.

Obviously each fan base has its own flavor, but I'm sure with time I'll be more familiar with the SEC fan bases and be able to draw more and more similarities between you guys and them.

Baylor was wildly delusional and is the only fanbase I actually find legitimately pathetic. They would talk crap to us like they owned us, yet they've only beaten us twice since midway through the 80's. They also can't seem to face the fact that they can't fill their stadium. All 6 of them are convinced their fan support is awesome.

Texas best described in 2 words. Arrogance and entitlement. When I was in school (but a few years ago) I didn't like them, but I honestly never really hated them until about a year before we announced the move (2010-2011, my senior year). The way they handled the whole LHN, Pac-12/SEC expansion, and the almost collapse of the Big XII honestly sickened me.

Tech is weird. It seems every year they do something that I legitimately respect them for, then they follow that up with going back to their usual trashiness. They're dickwads, but I do respect them in an odd sort of way.

I know several OU people and almost went there myself. Pretty good fanbase overall. Very vanilla in pretty much every way. Their fans on average are not overly obnoxious, but not overly nice either. They're incredibly generic, and their band plays Boomer Sooner way too freaking much.

Oklahoma State was desperate to have some sort of football tradition and tried much too hard to artificially create them. Of course, Tech was guilty of that too.

Never really dealt with the North teams much. Not much I can say about them.
Posted by Captain Insano
Idk
Member since Jun 2012
981 posts
Posted on 11/5/12 at 10:37 pm to
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especially when we can work out that LSU game happening on Turkey day


This!


I'm not a big fan of a big rivalry being on Thanksgiving weekend. It cuts down on the amount of fans that show up IMO.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145254 posts
Posted on 11/5/12 at 10:39 pm to
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It cuts down on the amount of fans that show up IMO.
was that ever the case in the lonestar showdown? it really didnt seem like it was but maybe it was just me
Posted by USMC Gators
Member since Oct 2011
14633 posts
Posted on 11/5/12 at 10:40 pm to
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Personally, I feel that the SEC, despite the jokes and stuff, has much more respect between schools, and I get the impression that everyone wants SEC teams to win out of conference to preserve the integrity of the conference. I found myself wanting every Big12 team to lose non-conference games (esp. Texas and Baylor, being an Aggie from Waco). I could be wrong about this, just my personal observations.

UGA and UT are the exception.
Posted by bdv1974
Liberty, South Carolinananana
Member since Nov 2011
10593 posts
Posted on 11/5/12 at 10:49 pm to
USMC Gator you on if so... go to the help board I posted a answer for one of your fellow gators on there
Posted by BreakawayZou83
Kansas City, Missouri
Member since Oct 2011
9513 posts
Posted on 11/5/12 at 10:52 pm to
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And Mizzou would be hurting just as bad in the Big XII. They wouldn't beat KSU or OU and they would probably split or go 2-4 against Texas, Oklahoma State, TCU, Tech, Iowa State, and WVU.

This is dead on, we just aren't as good this season as we have been in recent years, thanks in large part to injuries.
Posted by miledawg
athens ga
Member since Sep 2005
2033 posts
Posted on 11/5/12 at 11:17 pm to
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UGA and UT are the exception.



C'mon maing! i always pull for you homos ooc. Go gayta!
Posted by trickydick12
college station
Member since Sep 2012
1671 posts
Posted on 11/5/12 at 11:26 pm to
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Not speaking on behalf of the fanbases of these two schools, I would imagine both of them miss the regional rivalries


Aggie wise let me break this down.

[TECH] They keyed my car with "frick FAGGIES GO TECH" so nope not missing those STD infested cock suckers!

[baylor] Their dudes come down here wearing affliction shirts trying to start fights and then go cry and call you unchristian when you lay their asses out.

[ut] Their students/Alumni are fun to drink with. However their bandwagon Tshirt fanhood are a bunch of douchebags that act just like ****y tech fans.

Posted by redleg82
Virginia
Member since Jan 2012
218 posts
Posted on 11/5/12 at 11:27 pm to
Haha!

Lets see, away games in BR, Oxford, Athens, Tuscaloosa, Gainesville, Columbia, Knoxville

vs. Waco, Lubbock, Stillwater, Norman, Ames, Manhattan, Lawrence…

#nolookingback
Posted by RocketBallz
Member since Oct 2012
1285 posts
Posted on 11/6/12 at 1:05 am to
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Just curious about your observations from your first season in the SEC.


I never realized how many jackass fans A&M has. A few wins and they come scurrying out of dark.

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What are some things the SEC is better at


Building nice big stadiums with lots of seats close to the field. And, football in general. Making money too.

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what are things the Big 12 is better at?


Hmm, drawing a blank on this one. Short-Man syndrome when comparing itself to the SEC?.?

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Anything you particularly miss about playing in the Big 12?


I'll miss the end of year rivalry game with ku for while. I'm thinking the game with Arkansas in the future will quickly make me forget about it though.
Posted by 50CalMG
The Mountain Top
Member since Jun 2012
476 posts
Posted on 11/6/12 at 2:44 am to
I'm enjoying the new designed plays in the SEC:
Georgia ripping our quarterback's helmet off. Alabama suplex powerdriving our running back.

Bottom line: this is our worst QB play in a decade...so it's been an awful year. Still hoping to be bowl eligible.
This post was edited on 11/6/12 at 2:49 am
Posted by gnirwin11
ATX
Member since Dec 2011
248 posts
Posted on 11/6/12 at 2:56 am to
I'm gonna miss playing tu annually.

Other Ags will probably flame me for saying that, but being from Austin (or just the great state of Texas in general), I grew up around it. I miss it already.

Hopefully the Cotton Bowl will give us the chance to get scoreboard over those punk bitches
Posted by Mizzoufan26
Vacaville CA
Member since Sep 2012
17266 posts
Posted on 11/6/12 at 3:24 am to
So much more tv time in the sec, haven't missed a game this year. It's definitely much more functional compared the the big 12.

Fans are better, and the conference as a whole is much more of a family
Posted by TrueTexan
Texas
Member since Oct 2012
192 posts
Posted on 11/6/12 at 3:28 am to
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Not only that, but the hate doesn't stop when the game is over. They extend that into the business world as well.


Don't kid yourself.... we Aggies can be some of the most hateful sons-a-bitches out there.

I know many Ags of different ages who never hire tu or tech grads. And at least one Aggie who switched his Dentist and Doctor during the conference move because they went to baylor.

But yea the SEC seems to have less of that kind of poison hate.

Well maybe Auburn/Bama
This post was edited on 11/6/12 at 3:30 am
Posted by Tecate
Member since Nov 2012
1000 posts
Posted on 11/6/12 at 5:47 am to
So far, it seems that the SEC is over rated and on a downward trend. Just be glad that A&M joined and brought some excitement.

The fans are pretty much the same. Alabama people are just as arrogant as the worst tu fans, just not as intelligent. Miss. State fans remind me of Baylor fans.(delusional) Florida?...tech. LSwho?...what can I say? There seems to be quite a few closet gays(not that there's anything wrong with that.)I haven't heard so much homosexual name calling and innuendo since I was in 6th grade. You guys need to accept your leanings and embrace your sexuality. I now better understand the references to corn dogs. I thought it referred to the smell. It has become evident that you just enjoy the phallic symbolism. But, I guess the smell does rub off no matter where you put them.
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 11/6/12 at 5:54 am to
frick off, you Big Twatever left behind. GTFO and go back to Big Twatever boards. You are so fricking obvious it's not even cute.
Posted by TRUERockyTop
Appalachia
Member since Sep 2011
15871 posts
Posted on 11/6/12 at 5:59 am to
USMC ~

We're screamin frick the gaytors on Rocky Top till the death bruh! ;)

On a serious note, I do pull for every team in the SEC minus UF & UA.

Been a Gator hater since when it was UF vs UT on primetime, not the LSU / Bama matchup.
This post was edited on 11/6/12 at 6:03 am
Posted by Jobu93
Cypress TX
Member since Sep 2011
19229 posts
Posted on 11/6/12 at 6:08 am to
Thing I'll miss: The Thanksgiving day ritual. I honestly don't know how I'll react this year; the day has been set for me my whole life. To be clear, those longhorns especially DeLoss Dodds, have been such arseholes that playing them seems just about as dumb as can be for the moment. But I will miss that day's comfort in knowing what is up for quite a while. Perhaps when LSU is on the docket it will return to some sense of Normalcy.

Coming to the SEC has been such a positive net gain there is no reason to ever look back. The Big XII had no soul in terms of rivalries. Take A&M/Mizzou... I just didn't get fired up for that, and many on either side have said as much. There were two games that got my attention A&M/Horns and A&M/Tech. I had lifelong friends at each school so there was a ton of bragging rights. That's about it.

What is different/Better:

TV. Plain and simple. In years' past, I would never have complained about an 11 am game just because we were on TV so little. Now, you can afford to groan about it because someone, either you or your foe, wasn't good enough to get a 2:30 or 6 pm slot.

Fans
Just so different, but in my head I knew it would be. Going back to when we played LSU in the late 80s/early 90s, I can vividly remember time after time when some drunken Tibideaux would be in a verbal altercation with me and we would be questioning each other's family tree's lack of branches all the while he would be feeding me the best gumbo or sauce piqaunt I've ever eaten and getting me drunk on his bourbon. That's just fricking awesome. Even the "doormats" show up, and if you're not careful, their teams can get a win. Baylor never had the fans and outside of the last 3 years would never have challenged for a win.

Stadiums: They're packed with fans and they ooze with tradition. Texas has the size, but it really feels much smaller because they're so quiet. Wine and cheese Austinites that have no skin in the game treat the games like socail mixers rather than College Football where one loss means everything.

Lastly, and I say this without any malice, I feel bad for TCU. They were sold a bill of goods that I don't think will come to long term fruition, and worse yet, they are getting only a partial share fo the money. Their full participation gets only partial payment. Frick that.

Anyway, water is wet, the sky is blue, and the Ags are where they should have been since 1991.
This post was edited on 11/6/12 at 6:12 am
Posted by LSUFrosty
Member since Jan 2012
1861 posts
Posted on 11/6/12 at 6:38 am to
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Tecate


Grinding too hard. Grounds too fine.
Posted by Ridgewalker
Member since Aug 2012
3567 posts
Posted on 11/6/12 at 7:25 am to
The SEC feels more like home to me. Maybe that's because my family lives in Tennessee and I married a cheerleader from Alabama.

Also, think about the climate change for Mizzou fans. Trekking South is way better than visiting Iowa or flatkansas in the winter.

As far as football; Mizzou will get there, injuries killed their chances this year but Frank the Tank will be back next year.

Basketball is coming up, I expect to see many more positive reviews and results from that bunch.

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